More Americans and most Republicans now believe in climate change

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  1. Mac-7

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    You are still confusing weather as not being part of natire

    Hurricaines are supposed to happen in yhe natural scheme of things
     
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    Don't be dense.

    If you think that CO2 was the cause for the warmer climate 65 million years ago, then why do think that increasing CO2 will not lead to a warmer climate in the future?
     
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    The Paris Accords was all about economics. Specifically transferring wealth from America to China and other countries.

    If it had been about GHG reduction the worst polluters would not have been exempt.
     
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    So why isn't the same thing happening today?
     
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    Her Freudian slip.
     
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    Why isn't our CO2 at 2000 ppm? Are you asking why isn't the event which caused the atmosphere to be at 2000 ppm 65 million years ago happening today?
     
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    What questions did the survey ask?
     
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    I'm no statistician, but I looked at the website you included in your post, and did a little simple comparison for two equal periods 100 years apart to see what differences were apparent, if any. Since we've only known about global warming since about the year 2000, I decided to compare the years 1990-2018 with the same decades one century ago. The results are listed below.

    Years - - Named Storms - - Major Hurricanes
    1890-99 -- 82 --16
    1900-10 -- 84 --12
    1910-18 -- 56 --13
    Totals -- 222 -- 41

    1990-99 --110 -- 25
    2000-09 --151 -- 36
    2010-18 --122 -- 25
    Totals -- 383 -- 86

    These numbers reflect the fact that both the numbers (frequency) and intensity of storms has increase gradually over the past century. The number of storms severe enough to warrant a name has almost doubled and the number of major hurricanes has more than doubled. Since these numbers reflect a period of 28 years for each time span, this is reflecting the change in climate, not simply changes in weather. I strongly urge those of you who doubt or dismiss global warming to seriously reconsider.
     
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    How do you know it's not?
     
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    Try 1885 to 1900.
     
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    The professor in Austin is recognizing that the trees and polar bears and humans are all part of the same web of life occupying planet Earth. Of those, humans are the only species convincing themselves they are above all others and have no need of the others. The professor recognized how wrong this was, and tried demonstrating how life on Earth would improve dramatically for all other species if human impacts stopped suddenly. His use of shocking, extreme examples is common in our society. Politicians use it all the time. :)
     
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    See my post in this thread, #433. :)
     
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    Several. Read the OP in order to find out whether they asked the question you wish to know.
     
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    You make a good point--worth considering. But instead dropping us out & walking away, Trump should have re-negotiated it and made it a more functional, more successful agreement.
     
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    How do I know that the atmosphere is not at 2000 ppm?
     
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    ROFL!

    ... latest poll... less than 20% of Americans think we should even do anything about it right now.

    More Globalist dreams of taking Americans' money for their Authoritarian rule.
     
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    The worst polluters were not exempt. Every country who signed the Paris Accords have obligations.
     
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    54% of Americans consider climate change a very serious problem.

    Also, the guy who shot up that Synagogue thought Trump was a globalist. Food for thought.
     
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    The absolute worst case scenario I've heard was that the temperature could rise two degrees by the end of the century. That might prove popular in places like Russia and Canada.

    These guys figure they can control the earth's climate, and 'save the planet', when they can't even control the borders.
     
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    ROFL! Stupid people mislead by a corrupt media and education system.

    There is only one way at this time to reduce CO2 and not wreck economies, and Leftists have abandoned that solution wholesale. Leftists are either complete idiots or so corrupt that they should be in prison.
     
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    And who will enforce these 'obligations'?
     
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    You have been wilfully ignorant of the worst case scenario then. Setting aside that 2 degrees celsius is an average, that is the GOAL. The absolute worst cast scenario places the amount of warming at closer to 7 or 8 degress celsius, on average.

    Places like Canada and Russia will experience higher amounts of warming and that would be nice - for a very, very short period of time. And then they will get ****ed just as hard.
     
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    And 54% considering climate change is a very serious problem is a very serious problem. Food for thought.
     
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    The rest of the world.

    Those who violate will pay penalties and cut themselves off from shared research and technology and funding.
     
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    Then I stand corrected. Let's say the worst case scenario is 10% then.

    What are the alarmists going to do about it?
     
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