More Jersey Democrats Caught Committing Voter Fraud with Mail-In-Ballots

"Those are just the ones we can find," do you think there might be a reason for that? Over the hundreds of elections conducted every year, going back as I've seen over a decade, and "those are just the ones we can find" doesn't tell you anything?

 

Joisey and fraud, perfect together.

 

Ahh yes because we vote in secret and there is no way to track how a person votes and states and cities do not have the manpower or resources to double check everyone's vote. But we DO know voter fraud occurs and occasionally they screw up and we catch or they do a spot check. What's your point, and don't give me the canard it is rare so we shouldn't be concerned about it.

 

Where don't they?

 

We never had problems in the past why is it suddenly a problem now. We should all vote on the same day, at most same weekend so we are all making our decisions based on the same information. You don't get buyers remorse if a week after you vote for someone we find out the murdered someone and there's two more weeks of voting left but you have cast yours. Polls are open 12 - 14 as it is and are held open for those in line. And it my case I vote in about 15 minutes I don't need the entire day off and businesses don't need another day off for employees especially if it is going to be a paid holiday.

I agree let's not complicate it, it's worked fine in a simple one day, show up with your ID and vote.

 

Why does it have to be widespread to effect a close election? And the commission could not do it's work because of the hysteria some states created about turning over unidentified voter data to it so it was disbanded.

 

I never claimed that they aren't. I just said they must be free to every citizen in every State.

Are you also passionate about preventing Election Fraud as mush as you are about in person voter fraud?

 

If you can go to Walmart you can go to vote.

 

Well they are no need to state they must be, free ID's aren't an issue and I don't know why you frame it as "passionate" but I don't make make a distinction between fraud at any level of our elections. I wish you were more "passionate" about protect that integrity.

 

How would In Person voter fraud work.?
Oh Yeah ... No Voter ID required.
Democrats and Blue states own that also.

 

WEIRD, ALL THE BEST PEOPLE TOLD ME THIS NEVER HAPPENS: Voting fraud charges filed against Paterson councilman and councilman-elect.

 

We all know some voter fraud does happen, but given the sheer number of elections in America each and every year and the miniscule number of examples found proves that it is not a common occurrence, and certainly not worth disenfranchising Americans from their Constitutional right to vote

Umpteen studies have confirmed that reality, and all the individual instances collected over decades covering thousands of elections that opponents present only creates a false paradigm misrepresenting the reality

 

no one ever said voter fraud doesn’t happen, rather that the probability of it happening is even more remote than getting struck by lightning

 

It is a problem now because in the past no one spent so much effort purposely attempting to disenfranchise voters. What did Kentucky do last week, open up a couple dozen election polls to cover an entire State, hah one representing close to half million people. How about George last month where people had to wait over eight hours to vote in certain districts, and we all know where those districts were located

For three years Trump has been yelling voter fraud, yet he has never presented evidence to support his claims. Even the special committee he created to Investigate voter fraud disbanded finding nothing. Yet today the right continues to propagandize voter fraud, calling for new measures, changing existing procedures, denying mail in voting that even Trump employs, while at the same time taking next to zero measures to actually secure voting

 

Oh good grief have you no idea of the struggles for blacks to vote in the past????? You are making the ABSURD claim that it is harder for blacks to vote today than in the 1940's and 50's and even into the 60's??? Kentucky and GA both due to Democrats election officials mismanagement. Are you claiming voter fraud does not exist? And AGAIN the committee disbanded because the left engaged in a campaign to smear it and not enough states agreed to cooperate. And stop with the canard that Trump's absentee voting is the same a mass-mail-in voting schemes then admit that absentee voting is were we see most voter fraud so using that as your justification is folly. We need to TIGHTEN UP on absentee voting and the disbursement of those ballots and assuring the person casting it is the registered voter NOT expand it anymore.

 

Yup. Good point.

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/7468...s-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud

 

How much does it take to sway the outcome of a close election?

 

Absentee ballots are different.

 

First we don't investigate every election nor follow up and confirm every vote the fact remains it happens people engage in it to try and change the outcome of elections.

Database Swells to 1,285 Proven Cases of Voter Fraud in America

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Although talk of voter fraud may be increasing because of the stakes in the 2020 election, The Heritage Foundation’s election fraud database has been around for four years. With the addition of our latest batch of cases, we are up to 1,285 proven instances of voter fraud.

Heritage’s database is by no means comprehensive. It doesn’t capture all voter fraud cases and certainly doesn’t capture reported instances that aren’t even investigated or prosecuted. The database is intended to demonstrate the vulnerabilities in the election system and the many ways in which fraud is committed...
https://www.heritage.org/election-i...-swells-1285-proven-cases-voter-fraud-america

And we can only expect more if we expand mail in voting

"....
President Trump is raising a completely legitimate concern that an unprecedented expansion in the use of mail-in ballots in the 2020 election could lead to voter fraud. But that has not stopped his critics from declaring his statements to be false.


Really? In 2012, before mail-in voting became a partisan political litmus test, the New York Times published an article titled “Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises.” The piece noted that “there is a bipartisan consensus that voting by mail … is more easily abused than other forms,” and that “votes cast by mail are less likely to be counted, more likely to be compromised and more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth.” A bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former president Jimmy Carter and former secretary of state James A. Baker III, concluded in 2005 that “absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud” and that “vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.” Carter and Baker also pointed out that citizens who vote at nursing homes “are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation.” In Florida, there is even a name for this: “granny farming.”

No one questions that mail-in ballots have much higher rates of not being counted. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology study found that in the 2008 presidential election, 7.6 million of 35.5 million mail-in ballots requested were not counted because they never reached voters or were rejected for irregularities. That is a failure rate of more than 21 percent. In 2008, it did not matter because the election was not particularly close and mail-in ballots only accounted for a fraction of votes cast. But imagine the impact that would have in a close election in which mail-in voting is tried on a massive scale."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...out-mail-in-ballots-is-completely-legitimate/

 

Damn, less then a month for my prediction to become reality.

Breaking News
Postmaster General Suspicious Of Mail Fraud; DOJ Uses Warrants to Seize All Early Mail-in Ballots Amid Concerns Of Election Tampering.

Full story on FOX.


May 27, 2020Report

 

On the air? Nothing on the website.

 

That was just my forecasted synopsis of a future headline on May 27th from the thread
House Republicans Sue To Block Proxy Voting In The Chamber
in the Current Event forum.

 

I told you I'm down for voter id's if they are free to every citizen who needs one that doesnt have one. I just don't understand why you believe that ID is gonna solve election fraud. It must be a conservative mindset. In person voter fraud isn't that big of a deal, let's spend tons of money and force everyone to have one because in person voter fraud has proven to happen 0.0004% in all of our elections.

 

Yeah, cause in person voter fraud is such a huge issue, what with it being proven to happen a whopping 0.0004% in our elections. LOL

 

It’s a balance between fraudulent votes and legitimate votes that otherwise would not be cast.

If a certain measure - let’s say voting by mail - results in 1 fraudulent vote for every 1,000 votes that otherwise would not be cast, that seems to me an acceptable trade off.

The objective should be to measure the will of the people and that objective is best served by making it easy as possible for legitimate voters to cast a ballot. If that results in a bit of fraud, the objective is still served because many more legitimate votes were cast than otherwise would be cast.