More Jersey Democrats Caught Committing Voter Fraud with Mail-In-Ballots

https://wtvr.com/2017/06/26/andrew-spieles-guilty-plea/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...felony-charges-for-alleged-voter-fraud-scheme

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/17/no-voter-fraud-isnt-myth-10-cases-where-its-all-to/

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/05...-1285-proven-cases-of-voter-fraud-in-america/

 

So what? It takes time to do a full count. Why are you people and trump trying to short circuit voting?

 

They're willing to let old people die of coronavirus to save money and be free to party, so they have no place to complain.
There isn't any real voter fraud, as has been proven for decades, and the tiny amount that happens is equally divided between left and right, so it cancels out.
All the voter fraud and rigged elections hysteria is just trump and his followers trying to position themselves for whining about losing and creating more problems for our country.
They really have gone down the rabbit hole with trump and it's almost pointless to argue with them anymore.
It's best to let the mounting pile of evidence about trump's total lack of character and his diarrhea of self-centered demagoguery take its toll on the few remaining voters who can be educated and hopefully they'll wake up to the damage he has done to our country and his incredible unfitness for office.
Wasting time on the steaming piles of hysteria that will be coming from the trump camp is like arguing with an idiot- they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Biden needs to take a zen-like approach to trump and not get in the mud with him. People will see what a deplorable character he is even more clearly.

 

A very familiar face on - Hardball - back in the 2000's was
Jim Moran of Virginia { Congressman 1991-2015 } a true ballbusting
egocentric Democrat who had a big mouth.One of the first to come on
- Hardball - to attack his nominal enemy { Any and All Republican }.
Well guess what.His son Patrick who headed one of his Campaign Field
offices was outted.Project Veritas nabbed son Patrick but good on a phone
conversation.Patrick explained in detail { thought he was talking to a normal
person interested in the many ways to fraudulently register voters }.
The call made it ways into the News and that was it.No way could Patricks
dad talk his son's activity out from under extreme scrutiny and Obvious
scandal.So Pops { Jim Doran } was left with no other choice but to resign
from Congress { Used Retired as cushy excuse } to avoid further scandal
for his beloved Democrat Party.
How's that for Firsthand Proof that Democrats Cheat.

 

No way No how.It's what democrats use to cheat and virtually steal votes.
They love the notion of close elections that require by law if too close
a recount.That way like in the case of Minnesota race Al Franken vs.
Norm Coleman the democrats knew how many votes they needed.
That is how the Democrat Cheat Machine operates.Franken was down
312 votes in the 2008 Senate Race in Minnesota.So given enough time
to arrange Democrat Election officials knowing how many votes they need
to qualify or disqualify they go to work.
A 3 judge panel issued a ruling " sweeping aside all Coleman's legal
claims " and declared Franken the winner.Furthermore that panel ruled
that Coleman had failed to prove that mistakes or irregularities in the treatment
of absentee ballots had changed the outcome of the election.
A Minnesota election official was caught with a box of Absentee ballots
in the trunk of her car.The day after the race Coleman was leading.
Given time Franken hurried to declare Coleman absentee ballots as
rejected.
The same snafu was pulled in Florida against Congressman Allen West.
Crooked Democrat Election officials cheated and rigged vote tabulations
in favor of West's opponent.In the space of around 10 minutes time on
the night of the election West went from being UP by around 2,000 votes
to falling behind.
Same crapola Democrats pulled in the 2018 Governors race between
DeSantis vs. Gillum.And also in the Georgia Governors race between
Abrams vs. Kemp.

 

How did you get to that number when it could very well be enough to change the outcome of any election even one that could elect a President? And there is little evidence it increases turnout and evidence to the contrary. It's foolish to expanded the most prevalent means of voter fraud and endanger the integrity of our elections.

 

Who "proved" that and how?

How many fraudulent votes would it have taken in the state of Virginia to determine which party controlled the statehouse? What percent?

How about all the small local elections that occur throughout the country. You see ya'll like to pretend the only election is for Presisdent so you can use your BIG numbers but even thatbis refuted by Florida 2000 where a mere 236 votes determined the outcome. What percent of that vote is 236?

 

Why do frame it as I said it would "solve" all voter fraud? It is a MAJOR tool in preventing voter fraud.

 

Cool avatar, St David's Day 1988?

 

Mail in voting does not facilitate voting fraud.

 

Sure, if you say so. I trust the honesty and integrity of political operatives, regardless of party or political objective, a whole lot also.

 

Just a reminder that the only known example of significant voter fraud from the 2018 election was conducted by the GOP in NC

 

I don't care. Voter fraud is voter fraud. ALL political parties are involved in this BS. Whether it be 'hanging' chads, boxes of absentee ballots just showing up out of the blue, dead voting, illegals voting, etc. the voting process needs to be cleaned up.

 

Did you read the OP?

 

double delete

 

Exactly.

 

You can predict every Democrat position on voting security, they are always for the option that makes it easier to cheat and more difficult to detect it.

You can predict every GOP position on voting security, they are always for the option that makes it more difficult to cheat, and makes it easier to detect cheating.

 

I did. It doesnt.

 

Knee jerk denial does not negate reality.

 

Do you love in Virginia? If not, why do you give a damn? Just curious.

 

A major tool in preventing something that has been proven to happen 0.0004% of our elections. Major issue that needs to be addressed immediately right there! LOL

 

Oh I agree, but the simple fact that some were caught (and that aspect must be emphasized) engaging in voter fraud - potentially [because they haven't been found guilty by the way] - does not mean that voting by mail facilitates fraud, especially not anymore than the almost non-existent voter fraud that is supposedly happening now.

You want to know why you are against mail in voting right now given that many states, like Utah, have relied on mail in voting for years?

It is solely because trump believes that more votes is a bad thing for his re-election chances.

 

I repeat

Who "proved" that and how?

How many fraudulent votes would it have taken in the state of Virginia to determine which party controlled the statehouse? What percent?

How about all the small local elections that occur throughout the country. You see ya'll like to pretend the only election is for President so you can use your BIG numbers but even thatbis refuted by Florida 2000 where a mere 236 votes determined the outcome. What percent of that vote is 236?

 

No I do my loving in Alabama. Why do you keep dodging? You entire premise is the voter fraud is so rare that it doesn't matter, well let's see...........how many fraudulent votes would it have taken to decide which party controlled the statehouse in Virginia last election, that's pretty big deal don't ya think, which party controls statehouse politics.