More lies about Trump

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You've obviously lost it when you lie about the results of your own poll.

    More:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...rash-trump-poll-shows-him-gaining-voter-base/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll-

    How sad to watch long respected voices of MSM wallow in partisan slime. Shame on Reuters.

    82% in May, 88% in July. 2020 is looking better all the time, fellow deplorables! :)
     
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    And of course a poll like, "how many people who did not vote for Trump would vote for him today"...the fake media would not touch this question with a ten foot pole, as they know the results would be devastating... same goes for the "how many of those who voted reluctantly for Trump are now convinced they made the right decision" question - the leftist liberal MSM desperately do not want the people to know the answer...Heck, they themselves don't want to know the answer.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Cant see where the result of that poll would show anything new. He doesnt need people who didnt vote for him last time to win again.
     
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    Indeed he does not. but there are millions of people who voted for him reluctantly and are now absolutely convinced they did the right choice, there are millions of people who did not vote for him in November but would vote for him today.

    The fake media and fake polls deliberately ignore these millions of americans and deliberately concentrate on a tiny percentage of Trump's voters who claim to have a second thought. Their lies notwithstanding, Trump has by far wider support today than he did 6 months ago.
     
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    Yes, I agree. Its very difficult to hear anything good about Trump over the constant wailing of the left.
     
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    He isn't even getting traction legislatively with his own party and the courts are smacking him around over his obsession with travel bans. What exactly good is there to report? MSM political reporting is almost all process stories, and he is stinking up the place on that front. He stopped Hillary and that is all he will ever do for me, but I simply see his administration completely lost in the woods politically if it actually intends to do something.
     
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    He's a traitor. Thousands died in this county throughout its history to stop Fascism and foreign entities from destroying this democracy and now this puke and his rubes are cheering to burn it down. Traitors all!
     
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    The focus should be on the vast majority of Trump voters that never had a FIRST thought! :p
     
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    Trump has renewed the spirit of our military and improved the morale of law enforcement in this country. He doesn't need his turncoat party for that. He also seated a constitutional judge on the SC. An accomplishment that will linger long after he's gone. Considering hes only been in office 6 months, I think its a little early to declare him ineffective.
     
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    It's the rampant sociopathy that inhibits the understanding of social responsibility broad thinking and empathy. They are inherently cruel people.
     
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    Until he is effective, he is ineffective, and morale and a buck thirty five will get you a McDouble.
     
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    Below is from the article in Reuters:

    "Eighty-eight percent said they would vote for Trump again, a slight improvement over the May figure of 82 percent. Taken together, the polls suggest that Trump’s standing with his base has improved slightly over the past few months despite his Republican Party’s repeated failures to overhaul the healthcare system and multiple congressional and federal investigations into his campaign’s ties to Russia."

    Here is the link: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-poll-idUSKBN1A5127

    The data they revealed from their poll shows 1 in 8 of the people who voted for Trump are having doubts about voting for him again.

    It mentions more than once that his numbers improved.

    The main subject focuses on is if Trump can afford to lose any supporters. I know some will not admit it, but he won by very narrow margins to get the Electoral College win. It does go over some reasons why some people will not vote for him again.

    The article does bring up a good question. Can trump win in 2020 if he loses the support of a very small % of the people that voted for him in 2016.

    A simple article questioning how many people that voted for trump in 2016 can he afford to lose and win in 2020. Mentions very early his numbers improved with the people who voted for him. It gets overlooked and seen as an attack on Trump.

    Many negative stories have been run for each President.

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    The above does not include neutral stories which account for about 1/3.

    Politicians receive negative press. It is part of the job. The press should be adversarial and put politicians feet to the fire. The MSM is not running fake stories. The worst they are guilty of is showing bias on their selection for headlines, words used and amount of coverage they give something.
     
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    Thats the MSM in action. The intent was never to report the news accurately-it was to present a narrative.

    The headline was enough for that-to make lefties breathe easy and think that Trumps support is falling away.

    Of course-its not the truth, but the left would rather delude itself into another defeat.
     
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    Why? What's wrong with reporting unvarnished, unbiased truth. What is the advantage to them being the opposition? How could that possibly be beneficial?

    Even if I accept your premise; then why are they allies of Democrats?

    The press shouldn't be the choosers of winners and losers. that's the voters job. The voters can only do their job if they get honest information.

    Did you really just say that?

    That, and they're stinking propagandists.
     
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    How is the press allies to Democrats? Dems have negative stories ran about them to. It just happens right now you got a guy who keeps feeding the press negative things to talk about. All he had to do is understand politicians get negative press and he needs to just keep focused on what he wants to accomplish.

    It is similar to the reason tells a client to keep his mouth shut. It is also similar to Reagan saying, "If you are explaining you are losing". Most politicians know to just roll with the punches and find a friendlier voice in the press or at least someone that will run a more neutral story.

    What has proven to work time and time again in politics when facing negative feed back is talk about it as little as possible. Eventually something else will happen and the media will move on covering that.

    Trump talked himself into being investigated for obstruction and having Mueller appointed. If he is guilty of anything or does not want something revealed he should have kept his mouth shut. The Republicans were reluctant to investigate and the whole thing would have died down. If he is not guilty of anything he still should have kept his mouth shut. After about a year he could have killed the investigation. Trump seemed not to be able to just let the news cycle run its course on the Russian thing.

    If you do not think I am right look at what has been used to support the appointment of Mueller. Stuff trump has tweeted or said in an interview.

    Regardless if he is guilty of anything or not this has me highly questioning his ability to go toe to toe with other world leaders. Trump seems to lack the ability not to act on impulse and seems to say what ever pops into his head without thinking of the consequences or even able to comprehend his actions might cause a problem.

    An adversarial press is important because you want people always questioning those in power. You do not want a press being nice to politicians. There are places that the press are positive or neutral all the time when covering their countries leaders. Those places tend to have leaders that some how get around 100% of the vote election after election if election are even held.

    Unless you think everything Trump has done before and in office is perfect requiring no negative stories being run you should expect negative stories.

    As for the MSM lying please guide me to a story that is lying about Trump and let me in on the truth. My guess the worst you will find is something they got wrong, they learned about it and then ran a correction.

    When I see a politician do things like call the media the enemy of the American people I tend to think he maybe not the right person to support and defend The Constitution.
     
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    Ah, so a few dems have negative stories ran about them (too!), its all the same.

    You think you are convincing anyone?
     
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    Not as cruel as Democrats who create policies that result in millions of jobs going overseas and bankrupt the middle class to pay for health insurance that has such a high deductible, it's almost worthless. Also, seems the homeless are only a problem when a Republican is president, wonder why?
     
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    The republicans never tried to keep jobs here. They answer to the same corporate bosses. You are delusional if you think the republicans have your interest at heart.
     
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    You realize 88% of 63 million in only 56 million, right?
    And Clinton lost the Electoral College by about 100,000 votes in 3 states.
     
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    Lol...That never stopped you.
     
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    You think they should have followed liberals who indeed don't have a thought and blindly, obediently, invariably vote party lines?

    Even when their party fails to produce any positive result during 8 years in the White House and then nominates a corrupt, power-hungry, Washington swamp creature, who is wholly owned by donors, lobbyists and special interests, who has not left Washington for 30 years and considers the american people "deplorables" and who chooses to run her campaign on gender and race baiting, not on pocketbook issues?
     
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