More lies about Trump

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    What exactly does 'in his loop' mean to you?


    in (or out of) the loop
    phrase of loop

    1. 1.
      informal
      aware (or unaware) of information known to only a privileged few.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The difference is in the number of those saying they would not vote that declined from 9% to 1%. Those that are unsure increased from 5% to 7% and those that would vote for another candidate, probably Clinton, remained constant at 4% but 4% would have resulted in Hillary Clinton winning the election. In fact it required far less than 4% changing from Trump to Clinton for Clinton to win in key states.

    In Wisconsin just 0.81% of the voters changing their vote from Trump to Clinton would have resulted in 1,393,919 votes for Clinton and 1,393,901 votes for Trump. Clinton would have won in Wisconsin.

    In Pennsylvania just 0.75% of the voters changing their vote from Trump to Clinton would have resulted in 2,948,691 votes for Clinton and 2,948,453 votes for Trump. Clinton would have won in Pennsylvania.

    In Michigan just 0.24% of the voters changing their vote from Trump to Clinton would have resulted in 2,274,301 votes for Clinton and 2274,072 votes for Trump. Clinton would have won in Michigan.

    Wisconsin has 10 Electoral College Votes.
    Pennsylvania has 20 Electoral College Votes
    Michigan has 16 Electoral College Votes

    With less than a 1% change in the vote from Trump to Clinton the election it would have changed the Electoral College vote with Hillary Clinton securing 273 Electoral College votes and winning the 2016 Presidential election.


    Think about that. Less than a 1% change in the vote in just three key states would have changed the election results. Now think about the massive misinformation campaign by the Russians on the social media websites in the US as well as the damaging release of DNC emails prior to the election. Many don't seem to understand the scope of the Russian interference but we have an expert source on how successful it was.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-cia-d...ssful-covert-operation-history-212056443.html

    Russia isn't the only nation that's interfered with foreign elections. If I recall correctly the US has also covertly interfered in 81 foreign elections in roughly 60 foreign countries. It's been estimated that US influence in a foreign election has, in it's best cases, resulted in about a 3% swing in election results. Michael Hayden's statement is that the Russian interference was the most successful covert influence by any government indicating that it was more influential than US efforts to change the election results in a foreign country. Mote successful than the US that achieved a 3% swing in foreign election results? That's what Hayden is apparently claiming.

    While it's impossible to determine if a specific voter changed their vote exclusively due to the Russian involvement in the election if the Russian influence affected more than 3% of our vote, or even affected 1% of our vote, then the Russian covert influence is responsible for Donald Trump's election.
     
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    As a lifelong Republican, but not a Trump supporter, when Trump's fingers or lips are moving; He Is Lying! The media can only present fake news, because it originates with the RINGMASTER!
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    That's a lotta 'what ifs' Shiva. If frogs had wings, they wouldnt bump their butt when they hop. ;)
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    Oh, I'm sorry you were so easily confused.....I should have put "loop" in quotation marks.....

    Since when has Trump's idiotic,illiterate remarks, blared out in speeches and in his tweets, been ""information known to only a privileged few."" ?

    That is what I meant by "loop".......better now ?

    Unfortunately, we are all in his "loop"...
     
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    ...and obviously you can't refute one word of it :) ......
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You mean IF refuting one word would change a thing. It wont, so why bother?
     
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    ;) Such a good "excuse".....typical....
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    IOW, you're not really 'in the loop' and get your news the way we all do.
    IOW, you get your news just like the rest of us. Might want to be careful about claiming to have inside information in this age of investigations. Understand govt officials are real interested in uncovering leaks... from people inside the real loop.
     
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    You finally almost got it!! That is what I meant by the "loop" . We get all our information from Trump's fat, illiterate, unfettered mouth.........good girl.

    ...and ,like all your claims, you cannot prove I claimed I had "inside information"". Oh, ya, in your little imagination maybe, but not in real life.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    in (or out of) the loop

    phrase of loop

    1.

    informal

    aware (or unaware) of information known to only a privileged few.

    Not my imagination... poor choice of words.
     
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    Thanks for confirming your ignorance. Do you care if elected officials are above the law or not?

    If you want immigration laws enforced, then lets get responsible immigration reform. It's that not so simple, but we need solutions that will be long-term, not short term. Try again.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I care about crooked politicians. Can hardly wait til Obama and Clinton answer for their illegal acts.

    Immigration reform isnt complicated... just start enforcing the laws already in place and the problem would be solved.

    Personal attack noted. Its what losers do best.
     
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