More New Hoax Proof

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    What? You just quoted it. It's in #168 and #174.

    That gif proves he is on the Moon. The dust kicked forward lands at the same time. That proves he cannot be on wires. Since he is jumping an absurd Earth height for a gentle jump in a spacesuit, he must be in 1/6th gravity on the Lunar surface.
     
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    In post #168 there's no gif - only the letters IMG between brackets and nothing happens when I click on them.


    Here's what I get when I click on the link in post #174.
    The link worked the first day but it stopped working.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    How many years have you been using an internet café?! Both those posts work fine.

    Any honest person can see the wave of regolith hitting the surface as he lands. There's also a small parabolic arc between his ankles that also clearly hits the floor as he does.
     
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    Your new gif works. I still can't see what you're describing. Could you post a few freeze frames?
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    You cannot possibly fail to see the darkened edge of the regolith falling just below that red line! You want me to do some freeze frames? Do it yourself, it's called truth seeking. Besides you will dishonestly claim I doctored it because you are afraid your decades long quest has been shown to be a big lie.

    Only you are "unable" to see this obvious regolith. Even the parabolic arc of dust can clearly be seen falling between his ankles. You lose.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    A pitiful lie.

    I know they do , though only the honest ones will admit it. You are the Black Knight, not anyone you directed your spam video at.
     
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    I have made the gif smaller and boosted the contrast even more, lowering brightness. EASY to see the wave of regolith landing in front of his right boot area.

    [​IMG]
     
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    There's no gif on my screen. The only thing there are the letters IMG between brackets. When I click on it, nothing happens.
     
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    Use a cell phone! Another thing that is completely obvious is to watch the body shadow. The regolith creates its own shadow that moves out of that body shadow and falls across his front - at the same time!
     
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    You insist that's there but I don't see it. Does anyone besides Betamax see it? The only soil I see is that which starts falling before the astronaut does.

    There's a clearer picture of earth conditions at the 6:29 time mark here.



    How can you explain the difference in the behavior of the soil that's clearly seen?
     
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    You are checkmated. Your only recourse is to deny the undeniable. The regolith clearly falls in front of him like a wave and a distance away that could only occur in low gravity. It is clearly visible to all honest "viewers". And now you are able to see it all of a sudden?


    On Earth there is a significantly less difference in horizontal travel. Though the Earth footage is side on, higher definition and not grey against grey, the lunar footage shows the same interaction with the soil. I will spend some time tracking down better quality footage and zoom in on the leg area.

    You cannot admit this because it cannot be replicated on Earth. The soil and astronaut hit the surface together. The footage must be at the correct speed, as making it Earth freefall results in ridiculous mechanical motion.
     
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    It would be six times further away than it would be on Earth if I could see it. The trouble is that I see nothing where you say you see something. Let's hear some opinions from some other people.

    What you describe cannot be replicated on Earth. What you describe doesn't seem to be there though.

    That's not what I see.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/more-new-hoax-proof.441083/page-7#post-1070478656

    When I put it on full-screen and watch it a frame at a time, I see the soil not going up as high as his boots go and start falling back down before the astronaut does. This is consistent with his being helped by a wire.

    According to Jarrah White it's in slow-motion.

    MoonFaker: The Penny Drops. PART 1



    When he speeds it up, the movements look consistent with the astronauts' moving on Earth.
     
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    Incorrect. The distance travelled horizontally is not six times further. Vertically one would expect something like that, but not horizontally.

    Why, so you can dismiss them all!

    No, for once you have made a statement that there is no going back from.

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    You lost this debate 10 years ago, now right there in your face, irrefutable proof that the jump was at correct speed and the regolith splashes in front of him. Between his legs a clear parabolic arc of regolith falling as he lands. His shadow merged with regolith shadow, also falls as he lands.

    You cannot admit this, it seals the deal and you have spent 10 years denying the obvious. You have nowhere to go but abject denial. You are like the Black Knight.

    You are lying. It is consistent with you unable to admit that you have lost.

    Jarrah White knows the moon landings were not faked. He has nowhere to go now, just like you.
     
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    As one would expect, his jump centre of gravity causes him to backward rotate, resulting in his legs kicking forward. This can clearly be seen in the way the regolith moves forward as a wave. The entire front area shows it as clear as could be needed.

    Case closed, this is on the Moon.
     
  16. Scott

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    I'm in a different cybercafe and I can see your gif. In your gif there is soil flying forward after he jumps but I can't see the same soil in the video I posted in post #162.

    Why can't this happen if he's being supported by a wire? I don't see anything that isn't consistent with his being on a wire support. I don't see anything that proves he's on the moon.
     
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    Your difficulties with basic internet access are not my problem. Once again you show how ignorant you are of simple things.

    He lands at the same time as the wave of regolith. That seals the deal and you are checkmated. If he was on wires that could not occur. Sadly for you, you opened this case and have had it bite you in the ass.
     
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    It's happening...

    China Plans to Build a Moon Base Near the Lunar South Pole

    China plans to build a scientific research station on the moon in "about 10 years," according to the state news agency Xinhua.

    The China National Space Administration (CSNA) intends to build the research station in the region of the moon's south pole, Zhang Kejian, head of CSNA, said in a public statement, Xinhua reported. That's a bit of a departure from the six successful NASA Apollo moon landings, which took place closer to the moon's equator between 1969 and 1972.

    Details of China's long-term lunar plans are still sketchy, but CSNA has made significant steps toward lunar exploration. Earlier this year, the Chinese successfully landed the uncrewed Chang'e-4 on the far side of the moon, and have also placed astronauts aboard two temporary space stations, Tiangong-1 and Tiangong-2. Their space agency also plans to put a larger, more permanent station into orbit in the coming years.

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    I've long thought that the future of space doesn't lie with the US, but with China. We couldn't build a lunar base without making sure we had 52 bathrooms for each appropriate gender, and that the station's crew reflect diversity instead of skills. Meanwhile, the Chinese have no such worries, so they kind of win by default.
     
  19. Scott

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    You're simplistically ignoring the point I made. In the YouTube video what you say is there can't be seen, and in your gif it can be seen. There are several plausible scenarios here. One is that the YouTube video is a bad copy. Another is that you doctored your gif. You already doctored one.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...landing-is-fake.553296/page-4#post-1070485376

    That's not what I see. It looks to me like it's landing a little sooner than he is. Anyway, the soil that can be seen clearly is not behaving the way it would with no support wire. That alone shows he's on a support wire.
     
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    I am ignoring nothing. YOU are ignoring evidence that you don't like.

    It is as clear as could possibly be seen, bith in the original video and every gif I have put up.

    It can be seen, so finally you admit that which you have been continually and dishonestly denying!

    There is one and it can be substantiated by anyone and everyone.

    Useless statement. I gave you a direct reference to a early generation video copy of the jump.

    The gif is not doctored and anyone can replicate it. You are simply cornered and have nowhere to go.

    Prove it. I gave you the screen-prints from the gif I created. Even a junior knows how to use an online gif maker. You are cornered on that one as well.

    Denial, it is your only avenue of escape. You deny everything then come back on another forum and post the same spammed drivel. You never do the work to back your dishonest claims up. The soils splashes on to the surface at the same time, CLEARLY very fine and not suspending either. The central parabolic arc, can clearly be seen to fall at the same time. You are checkmated spammer. All you can do is your Black Knight routine. The whole auditorium would laugh at you if you ever summoned the balls to go into a debating hall.
     
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    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/2011/07/chinese-spacewalks-part-1.html

    This from the obsessed person who thinks jagged rotating ice, that grows in size x4 over 1m , that doesn't rise vertically, alongside dozens of other objects firing in a whole variety of directions - is actually a bubble.

    This from somebody who is completely in denial about a flag that is clearly fabric, being pushed in water by a flagstick! A flag that is also spun around at crazy speeds, fully opened up. Somebody who claims it was slowed down making impossible astronaut motion but still having absurd movements in water.

    You are so off base it isn't even up for debate.
     
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    Rhetoric and an authoritative patronizing attitude won't save you. You've taken some pretty lame stands on some very clear issues.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...landing-is-fake.553296/page-3#post-1070474928

    Those anomalies are too clear to obfuscate and you destroyed your credibility by trying to obfuscate them. Your attempt to obfuscate the anomaly of the bouyant safety cables was especially lame.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-sir-questions-sir.211182/page-5#post-4770094

    I'd say your success rate at making the viewers think they went to the moon is close to zero.
     
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    Viewers...LOLOLOL
    Dude, you have a couple deniers who agree with you.
    You are not convincing anyone.
    Nobody else, most are laughing at you.
     
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