More of slavery's legacy/White Supremacists infiltrate, Law Enforcement, to terrorize Black citizens

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  1. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

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    Yes. Just like how you and I enjoying slavery's legacy of White Privilege, every day of our lives, is a choice that nobody forced onto you nor me.

    Therefore we both need to now be forthright and just, shut up, then do the right thing and ante-up.
     
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    Raffishragabash Banned

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    And stop trolling in here! Just, stay on topic and post about racism's 72 cops patrolling Philly.

    Yes.

    Go create your own thread about those population/felony numbers, if you want me to drop more links only but no scholarship/no interacting with you, regarding how you're dead wrong.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Finish the sentence out, “researchers calculated estimates based on year-by-year data, and used demographic methods to estimate the numbers of deaths and re-incarceration to establish a number for each state and year.”

    I can post source after source after source after source after source showing the data.

    If you think editing down a sentence from a source out of context within the topic is a checkmate... you’ve set a lower bar for your integrity than I previous thought. And that was already pretty low.

    Sad. Not entirely surprising however.
     
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    ATTN READERS:

    "...the U.S. does not maintain a registry of data on people with felony convictions..."

    link says it all and that's why I included it, folks!

    And although my total population number might be off? No that doesn't change the fact that only around 10% of you Blacks [ 41/46 is = to 33/37 :) ] have ever dealt with the USA criminal justice system ---despite the images that racists portray as the entire Black Race, on the 6 o'clock pm news everywhere in America; Stay strong, Black people!
     
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    This is moronic. Neither of us have any connection to slavery.

    Nope. I will not be paying for people’s choices to commit crime.
     
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    I don't doubt that that is a smart kid, but did you listen closely to what he was saying?
    "Most of the people, they don't know what I am doing"

    All the other people in his village didn't know what he was doing.
     
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    Tell it to the dead woman in Minneapolis.
     
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    What's your proof of this? It isn't 1780 Alabama here.

    What I find amusing at apologists who claim that black criminality is caused by white oppression is that 1) people who choose criminality do not cease the criminality and go straight after accumulating enough money to get started out, and 2) these criminals, especially those involved in drug gangs, make far more money than law-abiding white working people, yet are somehow "oppressed."

    So in this scenario, even if a criminal makes bank hands-down over whites, they're still oppressed.

    Cute.

    This is 100% racial scapegoating of whites for black criminality. This type of not-my-fault-ism is why blacks keep going in and out of prison. Zero responsibility, zero accountability.
     
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    You are ignoring the fact that what motivates people to become criminals for money is that they grow up in poverty. Most drug dealers in America grow up in poor urban communities. They grew up in bad neighborhoods, went to bad schools and turn to a life of crime to make money. Is that a good choice? No. They should get themselves a job. You can work your way out of poverty and being poor is better than living your life worrying about going to prison or being murdered. I don't recommend the thug life and I don't make excuses for it. Racists however use crime as an excuse to be racist.

    If we want to see a reduction in crime then we need to see an improvement in the environmental conditions of people living in poverty. This is a class issue not a race issue. Blacks in America just so happen to be disproportionately poor because of racist discrimination. You don't have to go back to 1780 in Alabama (or the rest of the country) to see that discrimination against Blacks leading to inequality in education, housing, employment and health care was legal.
     
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    In fact, studies show that people become criminals because they want to.It's not a class issue: Bernie Madoff and those Enron s**ts were crooks with every advantage. Some people just have no conscience.
     
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    I agree that some people have no conscience and white collar criminals are a good example of criminals who live a privileged life but turn to crime out of greed. What I'm talking about is the racist argument of people like Empress that Black people who commit crimes do so because they are Black as if they were biologically compelled to commit crimes which is nothing but racist nonsense. Not everyone living in poverty commits crime. Not everyone living in poor urban communities commits crime. But the difference in crime rate between White and Black Americans is definitely rooted in Socioeconomic factors not biological differences between races.
     
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    Well of course no one commits rime because of the color of their skin. But the difference in crime rates between Blacks and Whites is probably not rooted in socioeconomic factors so much as the different ways thoe communities are policed. Also, it must be admitted, Black and White culture differ in many ways.
     
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    Black and White communities are policed differently because of Socioeconomic factors and the racist culture of America that sees Black people as racial inferior, an attitude that many White people including cops still share. Racism has been significantly diminished but there are still biases that people share subconsciously that are influenced by racist stereotypes. These biases have been proven to exist in psychological studies and there is a racial bias in the criminal justice system. But we can't ignore the fact that crime is more prevalent in poor urban communities than it is in affluent areas because of poverty itself. The culture of Black Americans is also influenced by poverty. Blacks living in affluent neighborhoods do not have the same attitudes about life that inspire the "thug culture" as Blacks living in the ghettos and the ones that do have been influenced by the media as have many Whites especially young White men who listen to rap music and emulate the culture and behavior of Black gangsters.

    The thug life of violent crime, drug abuse and promiscuity is a culture that developed in poor areas due to people living in bad environmental conditions.
     
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    Just to be a Devil's advocate: Doe the fact that Rap music is popular in Black culture mean that it reflects their values?
     
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    For some urban Black youth, yes. Many middle aged and elderly Black people don't like rap music and believe it promotes degeneracy. You can hear Black pastors speak out against it. Black people over the age of 40 who grew up listening to blues, pop, soul and gospel music prefer r&b if they listen to modern music at all. Even for the urban Black youth they are not all gangbangers who believe in disrespecting women, selling drugs and murdering people. Some of them just listen to gangsta rap because they think it sounds cool and edgy not because they share the values in the messages. The music itself is a reflection of urban culture and not a cause of any criminal or immoral behavior.
     
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    I love rap music and I'm white. I believe it's just as popular across all races.

    To say it reflects black values is incorrect as it has fans across all races. So it would be suggest it reflects the values of all it's fans. Which I personally don't think is true.
     
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    I agree and I think that in America more White people listen to rap music than anyone else but you can say that is because most Americans are White. A lot of people just see music as entertainment and don't necessarily want to live the lifestyle the artists are promoting. I doubt most fans of rap music who hear about drive-by shootings in the lyrics actually ever get in a car and shoot anyone. Some people live that life. Most don't. The rappers that grew up in the hood who are actually about that life are using their life experiences to create music.

    This is like the idea that shooting games turn teens in to killers. Video games and movies desensitize people to violence and might give people ideas but generally they are just entertainment. People get to live out their fantasies and experience something that they would never do in real life.
     
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    Poverty has never been shown to cause crime. West Virginia is one of the poorest states in the US and has one of the lowest crime rates.

    Also, what you're referring to is a lifestyle. If a condition of poverty was the cause, one would simply stop the drug trade or whatever when they made an amount of money to go to school or whatever, but that's not happening. It's a lifestyle.

    All you're doing here is ultimately repeating a leftist narrative which blames capitalism (or similar) for crime. It's bunk.

    Basically your argument is apparently that poor people are of such lowly moral character that society has one of two options: Give poor people things or poor people are going to behave like social predators.
     
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    How do offensive comments equal terrorism?

    What about non-white LEOs that make offensive statements about whites? How about that black president that made offensive statements about whites?
     
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    Now now that standard is only for white folk.
     
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    Poverty and crime are correlated. Other ethnic groups besides Blacks such as Irish and Italians had high crime rates. Based on statistics poor URBAN areas tend to have high crime rates because of crowding, drug trafficking and access to guns. The West Virginia argument is a weak one given that poor rural people don't live the same lifestyle as urban folk. Trying to eliminate poverty and affording all people equal housing, employment, education and health care (as equal as we can make it) would indeed go a long way towards reducing crime.

    Being poor doesn't make you a criminal either. Most poor urban people don't commit violent crimes. Citing crime statistics is also a poor excuse for racism. You can't generalize crime to an entire population and you are causing more problems for the world by being racist.
     

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