More terrorists arrested.

Muslims need to rule the world.
I suggest you do some reading.

 

When you say Islamic civilisation, which one do you mean? They are different. Albanians have been assimilating in Australia for years.
Indonesians also live here quite happily.
I'm inclined to agree with you that there may be a reflex of atheism eventually.

 

Oooh cmon youre emphasizing boredom as the sole reason for jihadi attacks.
Terrorism exists all over the world, and youre blaming boredom..youre pulling my leg....

 

what would you suggest?

 

The koran, hadith of the koran and sunnah would be a good start.

 

Mostly the arabo-muslim countries, I would include pakistano-afghan islam which is simply among the worse, but there is terrorism in Indonesia and Malaysia too. It's true that there is differences, but the problem of salafo-jihadism is worldwide.

It's important to remind that for a lot of muslims, their islam is not really related to Muhammed Islam. For them, being muslim is about doing ramadan, being nice to other muslims and if you're lucky to people in a general way, maybe wearing the scarf and not eating pork. They never studied that much either the quran or the hadith.
However, a lot of islamic countries have values which can not exist with western country, many muslim countries have death penalty against blasphemy (Pakistan, Mauritania, maybe Saudi Arabia, I'm not sure for SA) and death penalty against former muslims. People which live in those countries are rarely revolted against those laws and support those laws. And yet, leftis think that when they move to a western country for only economical reasons and without which to adapt, they will change their values.

 

I'll keep that in mind, thank you.

 

Surate 9 is a good start. It's one of the last revealed by Muhammed. You can find it on the muslim website quran.com.
Surate 2 is interesting too.

 

Yes, for many people who profess to be religious, it's lip service. Christians are like that too.

 

What was that I read...kill the polytheists where ever you find them...

 

Religion can allow to have a lot of influence on people, but not only religion, there is too political or ethic influencer which are very dangerous. I saw some vegan leaders shamelessly ask to violence toward butcher. We can think to communism or fascism too which led to violences

Christianity is problematic too, but right now less than Islam. Jesus had a much less violent life than Muhammed. However, the corruption of the financial elite is problematic worldwide, and right now, it's the one of the western world which tend to be the most powerfull.

 

They just arrested some wannabe jihadists today in France which wanted to murder some people manifesting.

I'm just surprized however we didn't lived back the horrors of the 13th november yet. In a way, I think we all know that it will happen back one day or another, we just don't know when.

 

violence seems to come in cycles. IRA, Baader Meinhof, ETA, Stern Gang, Mau Mau.
It just depends what on who wants what, on the day.

 

It's part of human nature.

 

islamic terrorists are not human.

 

Do you mean that Muslims are not human?

 

So what about other terrorists, I mean of all the ways to be killed I think being killed by a terrorist is less likely than the roof of your home falling on top of you.

Why everyone is so keen on beating the terrorists drum supporting what they do is beyond me .

I do understand why the NRA supports terrorism as it is good for gun and ammunition sales which is why they finance so many right wing extremist sites.

I also understand why the Zionists support terrorism as it justifies their desire to exterminate and steal land from the Palestinians.

What I don't understand is the others that are so sucked in by them.

 

I said islamic terrorists.

 

OK cool, a lot here think all Muslims are potential terrorists where from my observation most became Muslim to give some sort of justification for what they want to do.

 

Im not supporting them.
Where have I supported them.
Are you inferring that by posting about islamic terrorists, in an attempt to create
awareness that islamic terrorism actually exists, and that steps should be taken to combat such terrorism by stronger legislation...that I am supporting them.....
I thought the word support meant to agree, to believe,to give assistance..
Perhaps we should all put our heads in the sand and let terrorism continue whilst we disregard the threat it creates. Who knows, maybe if we ignore it enough, it might just go away...or maybe Australia will finish up like the UK...

 

Are you really suggesting that these people are 'bored poverty stricken people’???

Do you really think this is the demographic of radical elements in Australia???

Ok, we have one who posts here that is a candidate for radical behaviour. NOT because of their hatred but because of the way they hate. Hatred of capitalism while embracing many aspects of capitalistic activity. Their bias in general to oppose, simply to because of who it is, not what they say. And many other things.


Now I am not suggesting this particular person is a potential terrorist or anything, just that they fit similar radicalised demographic. Should we track this member down??? Should we lock them away for their potential terrorist belief??? The thing is not that they are a potential terrorist, not that they have a potential to be radicalised. The thing is to understand what terrorism actually is and how radicalism works.

The one thing not to do is assume a stereotypical ideal of what a radical terrorist is. Believe me, terrorists are not just “bored poverty stricken people” That is highly ignorant of the truth and reality of the situation.

 

I am saying that if they had other interests like earning a living, they would PERHAPS be less alienated from Australian society and less inclined to blame their woes on western countries.

I'm not sure what you are saying about capitalists and someone who doesn't embrace capitalism.
(That's another too easy method of denigrating a group of people. To call left leaning people Communists, Socialists, Free Stuff Grabbers.)

It is too easy to demonise a whole religion and blame the moderately leaning Muslims for the actions of a few people who are easily influenced.
The Muslims I've known are ordinary nice people.

 

Your first paragraph is just BS
Ive said nothing about capitalism.
Where did I demonize muslims?

 

If they had other interests??? Look I think I know where you’re coming from. You are suggesting that they are already on the outer edge of society and that should they be included they would be different. This in no way pertains to their allotment in society so considering they are of poverty or anything is not helpful. We should be discussing the true nature of radicalism not a perceived one due to the ideal that we cannot understand.


The Capitalistic acronym is not about who embraces or opposes capitalism but the way it is portrayed in vicious unrealistic circumstance while being embracing sections in opposition to that very opposition to capitalism. I used it as an example simply to point out that stereotyping radicalism is wrong. Again it is wrong to assume that they fit a demographic so thus they must be a potential terrorist… Frankly, I think most of it is simply misguided hatred being pushed due to the need to hate, not the truth of the situation. That is why they could well be radicalised, not the fact they are radicalised.


You will note that most terrorist organisations are opposed to capitalism. Now before you bounce of the walls, I mean terrorist organisations to Australia or the US. You have to remember, to many nations Australia and the US are the terrorists.

Muslims terrorists. I supposed anybody who states they are acting in the cause of ISIS must be a Muslim. That stands to reason. I suppose anybody who shouts Islamic slogans while committing terrorist offences are Muslim. No doubt about it. Claiming that it is not Islamic is frankly foolish.

But it is not the only radicalism in Australia. Assange was another who embraces radicalism, is he a terrorist??? That is another argument entirely but the truth is he holds radical beliefs that there should be no secrecy except what he decides should be secret.

The point is, you simply don’t know what the demographic of radicals or terrorist are. Funny enough, it is time Islam stands to account, that is not at the ridicule of everybody else but to actively work to stop radical elements from taking hold. Christianity, Jewish,. Hindu and all other religious entities have to do more to engage with their parishes to help prevent.


They all have to stop making excuses, such as racism, division or anything else to simply try to make it somebody else’s problem. They have to stand up and point out those who would promote radical beliefs.

We as a nation, have to stop excusing bad behaviour because race, religion educational expectations. Instead of embracing vile exceptionally degenerated concepts as freedom of speech and lining the pockets of those who expound what we want to hear. You know like Trump.

 

Umm that was pointed at me.