More than a dozen Confederate statues vandalized around the country so far in 2019

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  1. Ronstar

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    rejecting her slave status was a crime, back in 1861.

    just as rejecting the Nuremberg Laws made a Jew a criminal.
     
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    They belong to the state and were erected by Democrats, why shouldn't they be safe?
     
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    they were erected by southern conservatives, we see who is fighting to keep them... hint: ...it's not democrats
     
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    By Southern Democrats on behalf of the state to honor those who fought with bravery against foriegn invaders.
     
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    by racist southern conservatives of the time... time to remove them, they stink up the place
     
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    The Southern segregationists were Populist.
     
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    they were the Trump supporters of another era "blood and soil, Jews will nto replace us" types
     
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    Ahhh Trump was not alive then and strongly support Israel and the Jewish people. The anti-Israel side is the left, the Liberals.
     
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    those "blood and soil, Jews will not replace us" types are republicans... not democrats

    the Trump side calls them "fine people"
     
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    I am certainly not against the Jewish people in Israel. I feel they have a right to Israel, although for a different reason than they do. They think they are the chosen and the land is holy and all that horse hockey. I just think they deserve their own country considering their history.

    I am a very liberal democrat, mind you.

    I also believe we have done Israel's bidding too many times. They are a wealthy country that can wage their own wars. This whole thing with Iran has everything to do with what Israel wants(a war with Iran) and not what is good for the U.S. I don't think Trump and his boy Bolton can sell this in America right now.

    So don't give me this "it's the liberals against the Jews" feces. It's much more complicated than that.
     
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    Just read the leftist post on this board alone then watch CNN and MSNBC. It's not complicated at all and you just expressed your anti-Israeli sentiments.
     
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    No he didn't, another canard from the left and specious nonsense, go read his ENTIRE statement.
     
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    which one, his own words or the prepared statement he read as we all know the way Trump really feels is when he is not reading someone elses words
     
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    The entire statement YOU are cherry picking and that was quite clear stop with the stalling. And I don't need your made up "the way Trump really feels" nonsense. You cherry picked his quote leaving out the context.
     
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    a person died from a white nationalist that day, and Trump could not even rise to the occasion.. sad!
     
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    Sad, you have to cherry pick to misrepresent it.
     
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    not cherry picking, that is what happened at that event, that and the chanters chanting "blood and soil, Jews will not replace us"

    Trump down played all that
     
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    Absolutely cherry picked as you cut it off before he specifically says he did not include the white supremist in his statement and YOU KNOW IT. Yet you still post it out of context to make it seem otherwise.
     
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    show me where he commented on the women getting run over or the comments of the Jew haters..... he never directly condemned that, if it upset him we would of had many tweets about it
     
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    Nothing I said is anti-Israel. If I were them I would try to get us to do their bidding as well. I'm mad that the U.S. complies. At least make it a tit for tat, quid pro quo so to speak. They already know that if they are attacked the U.S. would lay into whomever with both barrels, as we should. But seeking out a fight with Iran for Israel is ridiculous. Not to mention is would explode our debt.
     
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    Another piece of garbage finally got removed from public view yesterday, this time in North Carolina = https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/20/...ederate-monument-removal-pittsboro/index.html
     
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    wont be long before they dig up cemetaries and tombstones ...
     
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    These democrats are acting more and more like ISIS terrorists.

    Probably because they share the same world view.
     
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    This is when I am supposed to condemn the defacing and vandalizing of public or private property and endorse the rule of law and the convictions of punishment of the lawless.

    Happy to do so. Those statutes should stand unmolested as long as their owners want them to, on property with the permission of that property owner as long as the property owner wants them to stay. If that dynamic changes, then the statues should moved,, or be stored or be destroyed legally just like any other piece of art or propaganda.

    Just because the statue belonged there in 1967, does not mean it has to stay there in 2019. The decision of one generation is not a binding contract on all future generations. Communities are allowed to change their minds as their views or tastes change. If the parks commission wants to move a commemorative piece of art to put up a swing set, and it uses the proscribed process including a community wide forum and a vote, then by golly, they can move the art for the swingset.

    If they want to auction it off and replace it with some postmodern statue of a whale phallus, and they use the same proscribed process, then children can look up at a whale phallus until the next generation of community leaders changes its mind.

    Its not my business to tell a town what propaganda or art it put up or take down if I don't live there, pay taxes there, or even walk by the damn thing.
     
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