Moscow issues mass grave construction guide as troop losses top 700 000 KIA..

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  1. Jack Hays

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    RT is still available.
     
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    The height of absurdity, but OK.
     
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    RT AMERICA was shut down, as desperate as some are to pretend it didn't happen. This was a clearly anti-free press, pro NATO propaganda move by the regime in Washington, D.C. and worthy of Vladmir Putin himself, or Hitler.

    What it did was send good journalists such as Scott Ritter and Chris Hedges into weeks and months long searches for other platforms so they could be heard again. And the reason they were even there in the first place was firm U.S. government control over western MSM that we all can clearly see exists. Also its clear its not lies the U.S. gov. fears. Its the truth they fear.

    Destroying RT America left more sheepish folks with the choice of finding and turning to other voices, or directly accessing Russian websites during a time of sanctions. No surprise most caved in and gave up trying to oppose the media industrial complex.

    Isn't it funny how someone can bark about a free press and wanting to hear all sides one minute, then can turn around and claim there was not enough audience and so despite the timing it must have been a pure business decision? And I get in trouble for ridiculing such obviously duplicitous BS and saying they lie when they clearly are. The disrespect did not start with me.

    BTW troll farms are absolutely real. Some are run by the Russian government. And some are run by the U.S. government. And trolls are all scum regardless which side they work for.
     
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    I tend to see it as Krushchev got drunk one day and everyone around him washed their hands of it with a quick, unthinking vote on his item.

    Regardless, we can be sure the NATO bots will claim it was valid even as they themselves cite the reasons why it was invalid. Some people are clearly here to be disruptive and dishonest rather than try and help us all get to the truth.
     
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    It was a bit of a grey zone, when a foreign government is funding media in another country.

    Though the U.S. does that all the time, albeit through more indirect means with non-profit organizations.

    Anyway, that is another separate discussion. Let's try not to get too off topic.
     
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    So long as AIPAC funds American politicians, foreign governments funding media in America is so much of a molehill, I declare it bone white.

    If Americans want RT America and Tik Tok, the government either steps aside or its not of the People (hint: its NOT of the People).
     
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    So, not only do we have an illegitimate, totalitarian government deciding to cede a territory, but we also know that the decision wasn't one of the rare times in which that totalitarian government was acting in good faith, but to the contrary, it was acting on their knowledge of the total control they exercised.

    It seems to me that once that totalitarian government was ousted, the Russian people wouldn't reflect too kindly on that.

    If Trump ruled as an actual dictator for a time, as Kamala and crew seems to fear, and as one of his many illegitimate actions, he ceded Southern California to Mexico, it wouldn't be a good argument, after he was eventually ousted, to say that decision rested on sound principles.
     
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    The ONLY way it would is if it was fairly certain to all that the people of Southern California wanted to join with Mexico and leave the U.S. It pains me that when talk of ceding territory or territory lose through rebellions come up, few people's minds ever go to the right of self-determination, when that should be the VERY FIRST place EVERYONE'S minds go to!

    The people of Ukraine have nothing but disdain for the people of Crimea, and so, the feeling is mutual. Evidence? There is only one fresh water inlet into Crimea. Its a canal that comes off the Dnipro River. What did the Ukrainians do in 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea? They cut off the water! You don't do that if you think your loved ones are being held hostage! That's what you do when you hope the whole lot of them die of thirst! I cannot see the Crimean people forgiving 8 years of drought in their lifetime. Why 8 years? Because one of the first things the Russians did when the 2022 invasion happened was to unblock the canal.
     
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    Some of these guys have a desperate need to claim that anything that is not positive for the U.S./ NATO / Ukraine MUST be Kremlin propaganda.

    I can't tell if they believe their ramblings or just post it to bully out pro-U.S./ NATO / Ukraine sentiment, but if you said the Snake Island defenders were not killed and Ukraine totally lied about their deaths, I am sure someone will try and dispute it while calling you a Putin fan boy and paid shill.

    Most of the pro U.S. / NATO / Ukraine folks here that I see are so beyond giving a single fig for the truth, I wonder if they tell their wives there is plenty of milk left after throwing away the empty carton.
     
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    MOD ALERT--PLEASE KEEP DISCUSSIONS REASONABLE. DO NOT DERAIL THREAD WITH PETTY ATTACKS ON EACH OTHER. DO NOT ATTACK OTHER POSTERS FOR HAVING OPINIONS DIFFERENT FROM YOUR OWN.
     
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    The part which I agree with you on is the The Donald will hand Ukraine over to the devil aka Russia.
     
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    If you think that Putin utters truth you are sadly mistaken.
     
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    But as of last night they have a friend who will cut military aid to Ukraine and as I have said manu times before Ukraine is doomed.
     
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    Which is great news. Maybe the Yooks shouldn't have been so stupid to go along with the CIA Coup in 2014 and then proceed to genociding ethnic Russian ukrainians in the Donbass/Odessa. Not a great idea to worship WW2 nazis like Stepan Bandera.
     
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    To try and equate your fantasy of Trump ceding California is very very wrong. Unlike Mexico which is and was a separate country Ukraine and Russia were at that time part of the USSR. The Crimea was part of the RFSSR hence the “cession” of the Crimea was nothing but an internal administrative act. Ceding California to Mexico would be like Russia ceding Siberia to China obviously a foreign country.
     
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    You are spouting total balderdash.
     
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    So it would be more like if Trump started a dictatorship that lasted 70 years, during which Mexico was annexed, and then Southern California was ceded to the province of Mexico?
     
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    Ukraine will prevail.
     
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    :laughing: wake up, you're dreaming Jack
    Nothing I said is untruthful. January 1st is coming soon, will you be participating in the Bandera parades?
     
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    Russia’s war has been lost for some time.
     
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    Now I have to sit here and hope I'm wrong. Gosh darn Biden and Harris screwed up and Ukraine may pay the price, though they've also been paying a price for Biden's "managed escalation" BS so far too. So I hope Trump is actually tough with Pootler rather than trying to be his pal and all that. Hopefully he will have good advisers on that front. The Ukrainians are brave and determined fighters and their cause is just, so it should be a no-brainer for Trump and other Republicans to back them the same as they do the Israelis.
     
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    As an American making less than 25k per year, it sure feels like Russia lost when I look at my bank account...
     
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    At what? Right now, Ukraine should be thinking about how to prevail in keeping access to the sea with Odessa, as I believe the primary factor in their possession of that city today, has little to do with Ukrainian defensive operations.
     
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    After the Ukrainians' destruction of most of the Russian Black Sea fleet, the Russians pose no threat to Odessa.
     
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    A "no-brainer" is what has been going on in the White House since the current administration took control. That ends soon enough. NO more money wasted on the 'steins

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