Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by US Conservative, Dec 2, 2021.
I dunno why Israel is always so anal about Iran and their supposedly nuclear ambition.... when their covert operations are so successful.
Can you explain that?
Don't they do it? How about Eugenics as a pseudoscientific ideological precursor to Nazism? How about communist regimes based on 'Scientific atheism'? How about modern-day so-called environmentalists who openly preach about the human race being a disease killing the Planet?
There are just as many lives taken in the name of the science as in the name of religion.
Maybe they don't want to die?
They had a bad experience once.
Sounds far more plausible that whatever you think Israel is doing, is absolutely not stopping Iran in any kind of way. Hence Israel remains panicking.
Israel is not going to allow Iran the bomb.
I believe them.
You're missing my point: I dunno why Israel is always so anal about Iran and their supposedly nuclear ambition.... when their covert operations are so successful.
Can you explain that?
Kind of off topic but I have heard this expression a lot. Does anyone know if it is really true? Has someone or some group tried to quantify this?
Because if they fail just once it could be the end of Israel.
Pff. Iran hasn't attacked anybody first. You can't say the same about Israel. In fact, they are committing acts of war already.
You sound like a Islamic fundamentalist theocracy apologizer.
Ah. A personal attack when confronted by facts. The typical rebuttal from a weak poster.
They attacked Americans at the Terhan embassy. They killed many American military members. They are.the worlds largest terrorist state.
I think Moussad will just have to trick some more of their nuke scientists to destroy.more of their facilities.
The US admitted they uprooted their democratic elected government. And the installed puppet government was being controlled from within the US embassy. So you know... the US government started with murdering illegal tactics. And the people who "attacked" the embassy were just students.
totally legit targets, unlike an elected government.
That would be the US who is the largest terrorist state. Everybody knows that.
Among things, they let the Shah of Iran live there, a guy who massacred his political opponents by the 10,000's. The US also fully supported and aided Saddam Hussein WMD war against Iran and the Kurds.
That's just a one sided act of war against Iran.
Mossagh was not democratically elected. He used questionable (at best) means to take over the government. And the U.S. never controlled the government of the Shah.
Uh no. The elections in 1952 were widely seen as relatively free. The only thing is that they stopped the counting when his party had enough seats to have a clear majority, leaving other seats empty.
The Shah got into the car and Roosevelt explained the mission. The CIA bribed him with $1 million in Iranian currency, which Roosevelt had stored in a large safe—a bulky cache, given the then-exchange rate of 1,000 rial to 15 dollars.
The US also orchestrated death squads from within their embassy. So let's not kid ourselves who was being taken hostage by them students. They were terrorists.
Prove it. With links to a pro American source.
I gave a source, and it's an American source. Your demand that it must be a biased source is just weird to say the least.
If/when the time is right Israel will do what’s needed. Take dat to Da bank.
Your "source" has nothing about the U.S. embassy operating "death squads"
They are pretending to miss the point: the answer is obvious and confirmed by a "pro American source", namely the US government!
I should make 2 points and let these guys continue with their delusions and fantasies.
1- to blame Israel alone for the spate of terrorist activities carried out against all sorts of mostly purely civilian targets is misleading. The Israelis are relying on a network of intelligence operatives, and on the ground personnel, bought by American funds, many of whom don't even know they are working with the Israelis. The Israelis are in many instances implementing covert operation plans drawn up at the behest of the neocons by the CIA/Pentagon during the Trump administration: plans which the CIA didn't want to carry out, rightly viewing them as counter-productive, and which the Pentagon decided were best left for the Israelis to pursue. This article will give you a hint of what I am referring to. For that reason, and a host of others, its best to label these operations as US/Israeli actions.
2- until the takeover of much of the American national security and foreign policy by the neocons during the Bush administration, and the rough blueprints they had conjured up as part of their Project for a New American Century, the United States was the woad's sole military, economic, and diplomatic superpower. It was a country which held sway among allies and even its few foes because its "soft power" often matched its"hard power". It didn't need to buy and bully people to be its friends. Today, after 20 years of misguided policies, trillions of US dollars, thousands of American lives and hundreds of thousands of lost and ruined lives elsewhere, the US is most definitely not that country. And America ain't going to be "great again" following the tune of the ideas from those who got it in this mess in the first place.
Pff. The CIA was even neck deep in the Iranian secret police, trained them including torturing. And so helped out torturing people to death by the 10.000's.
Can you tell me if anybody in the US has ever been held accountable for it?
Has the US paid the victims of that brutally murdering institute they fully supported?
Separate names with a comma.