Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions

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  1. dairyair

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    30% supposedly get through the wall now, according to the poster who claims the wall we have now stops 70%.
    And did you not know, or read what I posted, the wall being proposed is on 1 border.
    We still have 2 ocean borders, a gulf border, and a norther border. All of which can be accessed by going around the 1 border wall.
    And of the 1 border wall can still be gone under, over, and smuggled through.
    You want to put a very expensive temporary bandaid on the solution.

    And your proposal of having a sort of military murdering women and children doesn't seem like a viable option.

    Getting sick of hearing tRUMPers calling for outright murder of women and children trying to survive life.
     
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    Trump does not hate the trump haters

    His policies will benefit everyone
     
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    They (illegals) can survive life on your dime. Start housing them in your basement if you want to be a bleeding heart. If you don't have a basement, set up a campground in your backyard.

    And don't confuse what is (with respect to the border security) with could be. You know perfectly well our military could secure all borders easily.
     
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  4. dairyair

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    Not so far. Maybe the $25/check tax credit, but so far, nothing else.
     
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    And they can survive on your dime also. Unless you get your military type security that will shoot women and children looking to better their lives.

    I would like a real solution. Not a bandaid. But we don't have any party that is willing to work on a real solution, do we?

    We have military there. And here's their restrictions.

    PHOENIX — The more than 5,200 active-duty troops being sent by President Donald Trump to the U.S.-Mexico border will be limited in what they can do under a federal law that restricts the military from engaging in law enforcement on American soil.

    That means the troops will not be allowed to detain immigrants, seize drugs from smugglers or have any direct involvement in stopping a migrant caravan that is still about 1,000 miles from the nearest border crossing.
    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...what-us-troops-deployed-at-the-border-can-do/
     
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    in right wing fantasy, the right wing is Always right.
     
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    the right wing is for private, for-proft prisons and private enforcement of sovereign federal powers.
     
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    Only the right wing is that socialist on national basis.
     
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    And Obama is GONE now, thank God......



    That's the ultimate irony, isn't it. Democrats complain about Trump while at the same time they are benefiting from his Presidency. And one of the most pro-Obama anti-Trump groups as a whole ----blacks---- have benefited the most under Trump. Go figure.

    Too bad there's not a way to make the Democrats have to get by on Obama's economy, while the rest of us enjoy Trump's ;)
     
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    natural born in the US is the only requirement.
     
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    nope. it was settled in US v Wong Kim Ark, and further solidified in Plyler v Doe.
     
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    there is no other way to interpret it, especially since this was settled in US v Wong Kim Ark, and again in plyler v doe. the only way you can end birthright citizenship is to amend the constitution.
     
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    because the 14th amendment makes that child a US citizen.
     
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    nope. it's ALL persons, not African americans. It's in perfectly clear plain English.
     
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    Actually i very much wanted to.... my wife would not allow it. Imo, we all need to help eliminate such fraud and abuse.... but my wife....
     
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    Trump simply feels no need to serve the 60% of America that does not want him as president.

    It does not matter what he feels, he was elected to serve all of us.
     
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    rahl, that's right. Anyone, other than children of diplomats, are citizens if born in America. Once birth happens, the citizenship part is over. It is not temporary or conditional.
     
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    Working as intended by Democrat standards. 1 more vote + a generation of offspring.
     
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    The fact that the military can't be used for domestic law enforcement doesn't mean the military can't prevent people from coming into the US. Only the most extreme liberals will claim otherwise in the midst of the current invasion. Don't use the military to arrest people. Just use them to turn around invaders with whatever level of force is required. Shooting a foreign person in the act of invading the US is not law enforcement - it is national defense. You libs seem to revel in the destruction of the US by these illegals. I don't give a [expletive] about someone trying to improve their life at the expense of our still great country.

    The only person we have willing to work on a solution is Trump, so let's fund his wall. The reason people don't want to fund a wall is fear the wall will work.

    How many illegals are you personally housing?
     
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    How about the Chinese birthing trips? 100s every year coming over, for who knows what purpose. Fly over pregnant, pop out a free baby, then take the baby back to China to do what with it until it becomes an adult and can freely re-enter. Something ain't kosher.
     
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    The extremists left and right do not understand the posse comitatus law.
     
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    Deadbeat obama voters who work just enough to collect the unEarned Income Tax Credit are not entitled to bigger giveaways
     
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    No

    Wong was born to parents who were legal residents of the US

    Pyler v Doe was a clear abuse of power by the unelected judges but had nothing to do with birthright citizenship

    Dont get me wrong

    I have no faith that Roberts and the 4 liberal stooges will strike down the anchor baby loophole

    But until they say one way or the other its still an open question
     
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    Your math is off. Over 100 million registered voters did not vote in the 2016 Presidential election.
     
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    I understand perfectly.
     

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