MS workers protest bid to build Pentagon's $10bn AI warfare system

Defend the US.

 

No. Precise. Roam the streets? Put armed guards on airplanes?

 

Of other country's military's as I said why the non-sequitur diversion?

Why do you object to using AI to run systems and routines and monitor performance?

 

Clearly, you know little about the Microsoft culture or that of other high tech companies like Google, Apple, Intel, and the preponderance of others in the high tech corridors. Most of these operations are politically liberal in their beliefs and their employees really are their most valuable asset. You can't replace software engineers and marketing talent with displaced coal miners.

Most are significant shareholders that religiously attend annual meetings. That's why they have a voice in the company. That's why talent flocks to their doors.

 

They rebelled against the British Crown

But these microsoft workers are displaying hate for America

 

I would guess many bigh tech workers are not American and are just here for the money

 

How long did it take our equipment to destroy Saddam's equipment?

TWICE?

 

Are you talking about 9/11 or a dictatorship? One alleged hijacked plane attacked the ****ing Pentagon. Are you saying the crackerjack $multi-trillion military that commits genocide nearly every single day should have done nothing or had no obligation to defend the Pentagon?

 

I don't, I object to AI being used to commit genocide, interfere with other sovereign nations' affairs, being used to violate the constitutionally protected rights of everyone and other potential sinister reasons. Before AI is used by the military, its purpose must be LIMITED to what is necessary to perform its constitutionally mandated function and nothing else and be fully transparent.

 

Another idiotic "guess". If that were the case they would be eager to participate in a lucrative contract.

 

So again how do you make the leap in logic that the US use of AI means genocide, interfere with other sovereign nations' affairs, being used to violate the constitutionally protected rights of everyone and other potential sinister reasons.

How is the military use of AI going to cause genocide and deny you some right?

 

I take it then you did not object to the Patriot Act and measures taken to stop further attacks.

 

My post was written in crystal clear language, so clear that I'm not going to repeat it, which means you purposefully ignored the actual claim in it in favor of the above. Either that or you didn't understand the post.

 

The workers get paid the same no matter what the project is

I think its a tossup whether foreigners who were raised to hate America or liberals who were raised the same way are the worst

 

Do some research of self re-programming genetic algorithms used in autonomous drone swarms.
Then if you understood be very afraid.

 

Why should people be afraid? Because of what might happen? Using that logic, we should stop all research on flu viruses just in case something got loose.

EDIT: add to this two things: 1) the benefits of drone swarms such as building shelters in devastated areas. 2) for every military advancement, there are multiple civilian applications plus increased research into a counter advancement.

 

I am still asking what the military could have done. You have provided nothing specific.

One thing they could have done is develop a very powerful computer which takes all intelligence and then predicts what might happen. For instance this powerful computer might predict that four planes flown out of Boston will be hijacked. The odds are that at least one the terrorist might not be able to get on the plane making at least one plane vulnerable to the passengers taking it over. They could call this new ability artificial intelligence.

 

History shows the US government engages in all the above 24/7 so there is no "leap" to begin with. The use of AI is most likely for the purpose of making all the above much more efficient.

 

Did I say that somewhere? Please quote the post where I said that.

What are those? The same ones that abrogate constitutionally protected rights 24/7? What measures were taken to prevent or stop 9/11?

 

You're absolutely correct. I am not in charge of the military nor am I responsible for the military's failure to do anything to prevent or stop 9/11. I'm not getting paid more than $1/2 TRILLION each year to try to defend the US against all enemies. That's why they (are supposed to) get the big bucks to come up with the expertise and wherewithal to do that and not me. Why are you asking me anyway? Isn't a question for the US military, the crackerjack geniuses who are paid to figure out how to do that?

Or they could have stopped 9/11 by just doing their job given the intelligence they already had.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/cia-directors-documentary-911-bush-213353

Instead of planning 12 war games to take place exactly on 9/11 that effectively rendered the entire eastern corridor impotent. What a convenient coincidence eh?

Or Bush could have at least gotten up off his keister on the first briefing that he knew was coming (see above) and immediately taken proactive action instead of look stupid and continue to listen to My Pet Goat. But then again no one could even imagine flying planes into buildings even though at least one of these war games were designed just for that potential event and others in the past as well. Eh?

 

So you didn't support the Patriot Act, complain about technology that can help prevent attacks and then complain the military doesn't protect you from attacks? What is it you think they could have done to stop 9/11 and what do you propose they do now?

 

Well know ours hasn't and it is our government that is incorporated AI into our military to stop those that do. Did not having AI ever stop any of those countries that do engage in those acts? Should we get rid of computers altogether since they would make all those things more efficient? Automatic weapons?

 

There was no way for the military to stop 911. End of story. No matter how many times you say it was their job, there was no possible way. And you have not proposed a possible way.

It made no difference whether there were war games or not. We could have had every military airplane we own in the air on the east coast on 911 and we could still not have stopped them. That would have required we start shooting down civilian airliners. How many of our airlines would we need to shoot down to stop four of them? A hundred? A thousand?

That intelligence was too general to act on. The only way they could have acted on it was to ground all airline activity in the US for an indefinite period. And that is not realistic.

Regardless, the military had nothing to do with Bush's actions. They do not act unilaterally.

 

What about them, if you have something to say then say it.

 

How much more should we spend? Ya know, just so we can make sure we are safe and everything