MSM Placed On Notice About Using SPLC As Arbiter Of Hate Group Status

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    MSM Placed On Notice About Using SPLC As Arbiter Of Hate Group Status

    By Thomas Lifson
    September 7, 2017

    There is more than P.R. symbolism behind a letter delivered to major media outlets, signed by the leaders of 47 organizations. Major outlets are being placed on legal notice that use of the Southern Poverty Law Center as an arbiter of hate group status, including use of its notorious "hate map," may lead to liability through recklessness and defamation, among other possibilities.
    The game that the SPLC and its media enablers have played is to brand utterly nonviolent law firms and think-tanks as "hate groups," the same label it uses for neo-Nazis and violent extremist groups that are white. The letter cites but one of a number of attacks in which the SPLC Hate Map played a role.
    Take a look at the language in the first paragraphs.
    The SPLC is a discredited, left-wing, political activist organization that seeks to silence its political opponents with a "hate group" label of its own invention and application that is not only false and defamatory, but that also endangers the lives of those targeted with it.
    The fifth anniversary has just passed of the terrorist event for which the SPLC's hate map and website were used to target its victims for political assassination. The following facts were established in the record of a federal court case. On August 15, 2012, Floyd Lee Corkins II entered the Family Research Council offices in Washington, D.C. and shot and badly wounded its building manager, Leo Johnson, who stopped his intended killing spree.1 According to his own statements to the FBI, Corkins intended to kill everyone in the building, and then go on to terrorize additional organizations.
    That day, Corkins carried both the means to carry out this act of terrorism and a list of additional targets. The U.S. Attorney stated in federal court that Corkins targeted FRC and the additional targets by using the SPLC website's "Hate Map." On February 6, 2013, Corkins pleaded guilty to three felonies, and became the first person convicted of violating the District of Columbia's Anti-Terrorism Act of 2002.2
    We believe the media outlets that have cited the SPLC in recent days have not intended to target mainstream political groups for violent attack, but by recklessly linking the Charlottesville melee to the mainstream groups named on the SPLC website – those that advocate in the courts, the halls of Congress, and the press for the protection of conventional, Judeo-Christian values – we are left to wonder if another Floyd Lee Corkins will soon be incited to violence by this incendiary information.​




    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...biter_of_hate_group_status.html#ixzz4s3lwK5Tk


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    The SPLC is an arm of the Socialist Marxist leftist terrorist network, and needs to be exposed and brought to heel. A blizzard of libel and slander charges and lawsuits would be a good start.
    So the lying Leftist Lame Stream Media is exposed using fake data from a fake civil rights group? What else is new. Everything from the lying Socialist Marxist Leftist main stream media is fake.
    Now the SPLC is a group that definitely deservers the attention of the FBI. The SPLC and Morris Dees should be under criminal investigation. Just for starters, they are slandering and libeling people and defaming their character, simply because "they say so." That's actionable. Second, their hiding of millions of dollars overseas is highly questionable.
    Hmm..... haven't the Clinton's also done the same?
     
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    I just read an article on facebook critical of that report. The comments show how clueless these people are when it comes to SPLC. They are like the political arm of anitfa, similar to the PLA being an arm of the PLO.
     
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    Naughty SPLC, designating white hate groups as white hate groups.
     
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    How can a hate group be an arbiter on hate????????????
     
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    The subject line made me laugh so hard I almost wet my pants. The MSM was "put on notice" by far right groups.
     
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    I would like to recommend to everyone a website that rates media bias from far left (Huffington Post, Media Matters, MSNBC) to far right (CNS News, Fox News, Judicial Watch) it is Media Bias/Fact Check. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fake-news/


    Here is what they have to say about American Thinker:


    “These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.

    Factual Reporting: MIXED

    Notes: American Thinker is a conservative daily online magazine dealing with American politics, foreign policy, national security, Israel, economics, diplomacy, culture and military strategy. The American Thinker demonstrates a right bias through wording and story selection. They have also failed a few fact checks…”

    Here is what they say about SPLC:

    "These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

    Factual Reporting: HIGH

    Notes: The Southern Poverty Law Center is an American nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation. It is noted for its legal victories against white supremacist groups and its legal representation for victims of hate groups. The SPLC also classifies and lists hate groups—organizations that in its opinion “attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics. The SPLC has been accused of having a far left bias by hate groups and other questionable far right sources. We rate SPLC left-center in bias through reporting choices."

    Sources should be taken into account in making arguments.
     
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    A list of underwhelming import consisting of the usual suspects getting all bent outta shape when their spade is called a spade by them that knows.
     
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    "Hate" has long been a Marxist Socialist Leftist buzzword. When you think of the hundred and fifty million people murdered by Communists in the last century, you need to keep in mind that those murders did not constitute actual "hate." Those people were murdered for the "Greater Good." The SPLC is dedicated to serving the "Greater Good".
    Speaking of "Greater Good", the terrorist arm of the DNC brings baseball bats hiding behind masks and helmets calling themselves Antifa, they don't bring them because they want to debate the issues they do so to intimidate and repress others. But the DNC and left in all their flavors have done nothing wrong in your estimation, you are simply a fascist and totalitarian and can't see it...
    You can thank Obama for the destruction to the rule of law by his many acts by fiat and in your face corruption and concealment of treason where justice became Just-Us and used law and the rule of law as a political weapon against one and all, that did not worship at the ideology of the DNC. Antifa is part of the Black Bloc, and affiliated with a number of CPUSA terrorist groups.
     
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    The FBI Removes SPLC From Its Hate Crimes Web Page

    In March 2014 the FBI scrubbed any mention of SPLC from its hate crimes web page, where the Center previously had been listed as a resource and described as a partner in public outreach.

    The FBI's move apparently came in response to a letter that Family Research Council (FRC) executive vice president William G. Boykin had written to the U.S. Department of Justice. (As noted earlier, in August 2012 a gunman, inflamed by SPLC allegations that FRC was a “hate group,” had walked into FRC's headquarters with the intention of murdering people therein.) Signed also by 14 other conservative and Christian leaders, Boykin's letter called SPLC “a heavily politicized organization producing inaccurate and biased data on 'hate groups' — not hate crimes.”

    Boykin's letter further noted that SPLC was “providing findings that are not consistent with trends found in the FBI statistics.” That is, whereas FBI findings indicated that the incidence of hate crimes and the prevalence of hate groups had declined significantly during the preceding decade, SPLC was claiming that the number of hate groups had increased by 67.3% since 2000. Demanding that all ties between the FBI and SPLC be severed, the letter concluded that “it is completely inappropriate for the Department of Justice to recommend public reliance on the SPLC hate group lists and data.”

    After the references to SPLC were taken off the FBI website, Family Research Council president Tony Perkins said: “We commend the FBI for removing website links to the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization that not only dispenses erroneous data but has been linked to domestic terrorism in federal court. We hope this means the FBI leadership will avoid any kind of partnership with the SPLC.”
    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6989
     
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    Excerpt:

    Inflating the Numbers on “Hate”

    SPLC defines “hate groups” as those that “have beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics” — i.e., nationality, ethnicity, race, physical appearance, or sexual orientation. But the Center does not restrict its definition of “hate group activities” merely to violent actions, but rather, it indicates that they “can include criminal acts, marches, rallies, speeches, meetings, leafleting or publishing”; indeed, some of the hate “groups” identified by SPLC are merely websites, publications, record labels, religious sects, or single-author blogs.

    As of September 2017, SPLC identified 917 active “hate groups” in the United States. Asserting that the vast majority of such organizations are “right wing,” the Center says they include “the Ku Klux Klan,” “the neo-Nazi movement,” “neo-Confederates,” “racist skinheads,” “antigovernment militias,” “Christian Identity adherents,” and a variety of “anti-immigrant,” “anti-LGBT,” “anti-Muslim,” and “alternative Right” groups. While also identifying a tiny smattering of black separatist entities — such as the Nation of Islam and the New Black Panther Party — as hate groups, SPLC takes pains to point out that black organizations must be judged by a different standard than their white counterparts, because “much black racism in America is, at least in part, a response to centuries of white racism.” Moreover, SPLC rarely makes mention of these black groups in its emails, press releases, and fundraising appeals that warn of the rising tide of “hate” in America.

    The manner in which SPLC counts the number of active “hate groups” in the United States has evolved over the years. In 1997, for instance, the Center's hate-group tally received a substantial boost from a newly instituted procedure which conveyed the impression that “hate” in America was rising at an unprecedented rate. That year, the Center's “Intelligence Project” began counting all known chapters or branches of “hate” organizations as separate entities, whereas it had previously tallied them collectively as a single entity. Thus, in 1998 the Council of Conservative Citizens (and its 33 chapters) accounted for more than half of the SPLC hate-group list’s growth over the previous year. Similarly, in 2000, more than 60% of the alleged increase in the nationwide hate-group tally was due to the first-time inclusion of the League of the South and its 90-plus chapters. By 2009, just 4 autonomous organizations and their many branches accounted for fully 229 separate “hate groups” — approximately one-fourth of all the entries in SPLC’s catalog.

    In 2013, SPLC claimed that from 2000 to 2012, the number of hate groups in the U.S. had increased by 67% — a surge allegedly “fueled by anger and fear over the nation’s ailing economy, an influx of non-white immigrants, and the diminishing white majority, as symbolized by the election of the nation’s first African-American president” — i.e., Barack Obama. In other words, white Americans' reflexive bigotry had allegedly triggered a host of hate-filled responses to the increased political and cultural influence wielded by nonwhites. And America's racists, by SPLC's calculus, are almost unanimously conservatives — as evidenced by the caption featured in the “Hatewatch” section of the Center's website: “Hatewatch monitors and exposes the activities of the American radical right.” The radical left gets no mention at all.

    SPLC's “hate group” counts have been shown to be devoid of legitimacy a number of times. Laird Wilcox — a researcher specializing in the study of political fringe movements — reports that many SPLC-designated “hate groups” are untraceable, due either to their inactivity or nonexistence. After analyzing the SPLC Klanwatch Project's list of 346 “white supremacist groups” in 1992, for instance, Wilcox concluded that in fact there were only “about 50” such groups “that are objectively significant, are actually functioning and have more than a handful of real numbers — not post office box ‘groups’ or two-man local chapters.”

    In 2002, the Cleveland Scene investigated an SPLC claim that there were 40 active “hate or militia groups” in Ohio. Ultimately the publication concluded that “while a few groups on the monitors' lists warrant attention, most have dissolved or amount to little more than a guy with a copy of Mein Kampf and a Yahoo! Account.” “Between their peculiar theories and a proclivity for self-destruction,” added the paper, “a majority of white-nationalist groups would have trouble staging a poker game, let alone a revolution.”

    In 2007 — when a news reporter in Rutland, Vermont could find no evidence of an active Klan chapter that SPLC claimed was operating in that town — the Rutland Herald noted that “the SPLC does not attempt to confirm the validity of each listing.” The paper quoted SPLC research chief Mark Potok as saying: “When a group claims chapters in a given place, we list them unless we have a reason to believe it [the claim] is false.” Emphasizing the difficulty of actually tracking down hate groups, Potok added: “Very frequently, authorities in a given community are surprised to find a hate group operating in their town or operating a mailbox, especially if it turns out to be a drop box. Especially in a state like Vermont, where the Klan is not very popular, you won’t see your local Klan in public. Just because local police and local anti-racism groups don’t know about it does not make it not true.” According to Laird Wilcox, “In private [Potok] concedes that there’s no overwhelming threat from the far right and in public [he] says something altogether different.” This, Wilcox explains, is because “professionally [Potok] is just a shill. It’s his job. That’s what he’s paid for.”

    On another occasion, when SPLC falsely reported that a Klan group had gained a foothold in Larkin, Kansas, Wilcox explained: “What happened in this case is that someone rented a P.O. box for a bogus Ku Klux Klan group and then kept the rent paid on it for years, thus allowing [SPLC] to list Larkin as having a ‘KKK presence’ … This was pure disinformation and an example of the terrible things the SPLC does in its campaign to keep the money rolling in from frightened liberals and blacks.”[1] In 2005, Wilcox reported: “Several years ago with minimal effort I went through a list of 800-plus 'hate groups' published by the SPLC and determined that over half of them were either non-existent, existed in name only, or were inactive.”

    JoAnn Wypijewski, who writes for the far-left Nation magazine, once wrote: “No one has been more assiduous in inflating the profile of [hate] groups than [SPLC's] millionaire huckster, Morris Dees, who in 1999 began a begging [fundraising] letter, 'Dear Friend, The danger presented by the Klan is greater now than at any time in the past ten years.'” To put Dees's claim in perspective, the Klan at that time consisted of no more than 3,000 people nationwide — a far cry from the 4 million members it had boasted in the 1920s. Nonetheless, notes Wypijewski, “Dees would have his donors believe” that cadres of “militia nuts” are “lurking around every corner.”[2]

    In a similar vein, the late left-wing journalist Alexander Cockburn wrote in 2007: “I’ve long regarded Morris Dees and his Southern Poverty Law Center as collectively one of the greatest frauds in American life.” In 2009 Cockburn called Dees the “arch-salesman of hate-mongering,” a man who profited by “selling the notion there’s a right resurgence out there in the hinterland with massed legions of haters, ready to march down Main Street draped in Klan robes, a copy of Mein Kampf tucked under one arm and a Bible under the other.” “Ever since 1971,” added Cockburn, “U.S. Postal Service mailbags have bulged with [Dees's] fundraising letters, scaring dollars out of the pockets of trembling liberals aghast at his lurid depictions of hate-sodden America.”...
    continue -> http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6989
     
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    Here's more:

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/c...e-media-cut-ties-splc-over-dangerous-hate-map
    Conservatives Urge Media: Cut Ties With SPLC Over Dangerous ‘Hate Map’
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    By Katie Yoder | September 6, 2017 10:00 AM EDT
    Conservative leaders are calling out the liberal media for a dangerous hypocrisy: While media outlets readily promote an organization locating conservative and faith-based organizations on a “hate map,” they would never do the same for a map of abortion providers.



    On Wednesday, 47 conservative leaders and organizations demanded that news outlets immediately halt their use of Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) data. Composed by the Family Research Council and signed by Media Research Center President Brent Bozell, the leaders published an open letter to the media detailing why outlets should stop referencing the “attack dog of the political left” while reporting.

    “The SPLC is a discredited, left-wing, political activist organization that seeks to silence its political opponents with a ‘hate group’ label of its own invention and application that is not only false and defamatory,” the leaders challenged, “but that also endangers the lives of those targeted with it.”

    According to the SPLC, many traditionally conservative and faith-based organizations constitute “hate” – a smear that has real-life consequences.

    The letter pointed to Floyd Lee Corkins II, who, five years ago, entered the doors of the Family Research Council with the intention of a shooting rampage. The building manager stopped him, but not before getting shot himself.

    “Corkins intended to kill everyone in the building, and then go on to terrorize additional organizations,” the letter read. “The U.S. Attorney stated in federal court that Corkins targeted FRC and additional targets by using the SPLC website’s ‘Hate Map.’”



    While the networks ignored the use of SPLC’s hate map in that instance, Hollywood and the liberal media routinely cite SPLC data without question. And, in the wake of the Charlottesville violence, the SPLC has only gained steam by attracting big name financial backers.

    But the leaders urged that now, more than ever, the media must cut off ties with the SPLC to avoid “another Corkins.”

    “We believe the media outlets that have cited the SPLC in recent days have not intended to target mainstream political groups for violent attack, but by recklessly linking the Charlottesville melee to the mainstream groups named on the SPLC website,” the letter continued, “we are left to wonder if another Floyd Lee Corkins will soon be incited to violence.”

    “To associate public interest law firms and think tanks with neo-Nazis and the KKK is unconscionable, and represents the height of irresponsible journalism,” the leaders declared. “All reputable news organizations should immediately stop using the SPLC’s descriptions of individuals and organizations based on its own obvious political prejudices.”

    To support their letter, the leaders cited both political and media figures debunking the SPLC and highlighted the FBI’s discontinued use of the SPLC as a “trusted source” for Hate Crimes in 2014.

    For their final example, the leaders pointed to the SPLC’s attack of human rights activist Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who has “experienced the violent and misogynistic side of Islam first hand” as a victim of female genital mutilation, among other grievances.



    In an Aug. 24 New York Times op-ed, Hirsi Ali responded to the SPLC’s accusations:

    I am a black woman, a feminist and a former Muslim who has consistently opposed political violence. The price for expressing my beliefs has been high: I must travel with armed security at all times. My friend and collaborator Theo van Gogh was murdered in broad daylight.

    Yet the S.P.L.C. has the audacity to label me an ‘extremist,’ including my name in a ‘Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists’ that it published on its website last October.

    In that guide, the S.P.L.C. claims that I am a ‘propagandist far outside the political mainstream” and warns journalists to avoid my ‘damaging misinformation.’ These groundless smears are deeply offensive, as I have dedicated much of my adult life to calling out the true extremists: organizations such as Al Qaeda and ISIS. Yet you will look in vain for the S.P.L.C.’s ‘Field Guide to Muslim Extremists.’ No such list exists.
    The leader also called out the media as hypocritical.



    “If a national pro-life advocacy organization were to release a map with caricatures of abortionists and title it, ‘Here’s Where the Baby Killers are Located in Your State,’ would the media run the story?” the leaders asked of a situation where Congress proposed defunding Planned Parenthood. “Would it reprint the map and discuss the location of these ‘pro-death’ doctors throughout the news day?”

    “Clearly, it would not,” they determined.

    In their conclusion, the leaders repeated the dangers SPLC poses.

    “Given the above points, and most alarmingly that the SPLC’s ‘hate group’ propaganda has been linked to two terrorist shootings in the D.C. area,” they ended, “we respectfully request that you cease using the SPLC’s data and its various lists and maps in your reporting.”
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    To a racist...the Southern Poverty Law Center is hate group


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    Southern Poverty Law Center


    The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is an American nonprofit legal advocacy organization specializing in civil rights and public interest litigation. Based in Montgomery, Alabama, it is noted for its successful legal cases against white supremacist groups, its classification of hate groups and other extremist organizations, and its educational programs that promote tolerance.[3][4][5]

    SPLC was founded by Morris Dees and Joseph J. Levin Jr. in 1971 as a civil rights law firm in Montgomery.[6] Civil rights leader Julian Bond served as president of the board between 1971 and 1979.[7]

    In 1979, the SPLC began a litigation strategy of filing civil suits for monetary damages on behalf of the victims of violence from the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist groups, with all damages recovered given to the victims or donated to other organizations. The SPLC also became involved in other civil rights causes, including cases to challenge what it sees as institutional racial segregation and discrimination, inhumane and unconstitutional conditions in prisons and detention centers, discrimination based on sexual orientation, mistreatment of illegal immigrants, and the unconstitutional mixing of church and state. The SPLC has provided information about hate groups to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and other law enforcement agencies.[8][9]

    The SPLC's classification and listings of hate groups and extremists (organizations and people that, in its assessment, "attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics")[10] are widely considered authoritative by academic and media sources[11][12][13][14] but have been the subject of criticism from conservatives and others, who have argued that some of the SPLC's listings are overbroad or unwarranted
     
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    "laugh so hard..."?

    Just like 99.9% of the ridiculous RW Fever Swamp conspiracies that find their way to PF?

    All of this RW Fever Swamp BS makes me laugh hysterically.

    BUT no worries, the Comic Relief provided by the RW is a constant source of amusement.

    SPLC? MSM? "On Notice"? :roflol:
     
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    They are people routinely (and often justly) criticized by the SPLC. It's a veritable who's who of reactionary right wing groups, secretive billionaires, and DC conservative operatives.

    There is a veritable host of slimy operators on that list.
     
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    I've seen some of the groups they label as hate groups. Christian groups opposed to homosexual marriage, moderate muslim groups critical of muslim extremists, etc. Is antifa or BLM on their list? I don't think so.
     
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    Names please. Let's look at your examples
     
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    What a joke, instantly and ironically discrediting your media bias site in its own flagrant bias. The SPLC has been an ultra left front for plaintiff's lawyers seeking to poison juries against outsider groups for purposes of extracting civil judgments and settlements for at least 40 years. That's what it was started as, a way to help the far left plaintiff's bar, perhaps the most powerful left lobby, to extract settlements from out of favor groups via class action lawsuits.

    What it is now is, in addition to the above, is a massive fund raising organization, that uses its fake "hate map" in its huge PHONE BANK money raising operations to scare donors into thinking there's a Nazi or klansman in every bush and shrub. Then it parks its money overseas, as has been recently documented in MANY news sources of MANY types.

    But that's beside the point. The letter was sent, its contents are quoted directly, the lawsuits are ongoing, so the bias of where those -facts- that found this thread were reported is completely irrelevant. So did you have anything -meaningful- to say about the facts of this? or just bumping the thread, which I'm sure OP appreciates.

    One of the other LW posters has tried linking this exact site instead of addressing the FACTS, just a few hours ago, so is this the new "journolist" tactic being broadcast out among you and yours. It will fail. LOL.
     
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    People who call their political opposition "hate groups" towards cheap political capital are the slimiest operators of all.
     
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    Add this link. My representative was accused of being involved in a hate group because of them.
    https://perry.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398444
     
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    What's the bias of this bias-checking site?
     
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    It seems that facts have been replaced by personal political beliefs. If one does not agree with something facts are not the issue, it has to be "biased." This has become an easy way to dismiss facts that make one uncomfortable.
     
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    Dude SPLC doesn't stop there. There is scarcely a conservative group out there that SPLC doesn't consider a hate group.
     
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    Theya re also the biggest haters of all.
     
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