MSM Placed On Notice About Using SPLC As Arbiter Of Hate Group Status

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  1. SillyAmerican

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    Well, one thing's for certain: the SPLC is not impoverished, and is not particularly interested in the law.
     
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    I read yesterday where George Clooney just donated $1M to SPLC.
     
  3. Jonsa

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    You should examine the various black "nationalist" hate groups designated by SPLC.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2017/return-violent-black-nationalist

    As for BLM not being on the list, you might want to examine their rationale for not including BLM directly from one of the SPLC founders.

    https://www.splcenter.org/news/2016/07/19/black-lives-matter-not-hate-group

    And which organizations that are sorta/parta the anti fascist protest movement would you designate as a hate group? Just being anti-fascist is hardly euqivalent to a bigoted racist arselicking neo nazi.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The SPLC has been discredited numerous times. They manufacture hate groups to order whatever trashy liberal theme is popular at the moment. When it was gay marriage there were suddenly dozens if not hundreds of anti-gay hate groups. When the hot topic is immigration there are dozens of anti-immigrant hate groups suddenly discovered, and these same groups simply disapear when they need to make room for the next flavor of the month. Then when they add new groups they can claim a dramatic increase in hate groups, since they control the flow of additions, subtractions, and the ratios of so-called hate groups. The SPLC is nothing but a liberal fraud producing 'data' to attempt to shape public opinion against whites...
     
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  5. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to ask where their support is coming from Soros' Open Society Foundation, How did their non-profit treasury $390 million grow so large that they are able to deposit more than 69 million dollars in off shore banks? Why would a legitimate non-profit organization want to put millions secretly into off shore banks?
     
  6. Lesh

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    Your first link sites Guidestar noting that they are being harassed by Breitbart and the other denizens of the right wing fever swamp and that they fear for their employees well being because of the attacks from the right.

    It also defends Charles Murray...a blatant racist

    Nice job of biting yourself in the ass

    Oh and both of your links (the second is nothing but whining and character assignation) come from the Capital Research Group

    The Capital Research Center came under fire in the 1990s for publishing studies highly critical of charities which engaged in anti-tobacco lobbying efforts.[23] These charities include the American Heart Association, the American Lung Association and the American Cancer Society. It was later revealed that tobacco giant Philip Morris provided $50,000 in funding to the Capital Research Center

    Wonderful research there pal
     
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    Once again, you demonstrate a complete inability to separate sources from the facts they report, together with an inability to stick to the question YOU YOURSELF ASKED, namely, (para) "demonstrate the existence of mainstream conservative groups on the SPLC list," or "names please, let's see your examples." Then when I provide the names you asked for, you go off on a transparent, deflective tangent in print for all to see about the source of the names. THE ONLY IMPORTANT FACTS ARE WHETHER THE ORGANIZATIONS WERE IN FACT ON THE LIST, and that they Fing WERE!

    Calling sources into question, for those who didn't make it past high school composition class, is perfectly fine with respect to opinions and disputed facts based on statistics, etc., but with respect to plain facts such as whether this or that event actually occurred, this or that group was on a list, this or that case existed, attacking the source in and of itself, with nothing more, is childish.

    Finally, if you call someone a racist without providing any evidence, you make yourself look like a zealous buffoon. In the case of anything Murray has ever done, none of it is inherently "racist." Acknowledging that there are ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENCES between races, and that, for example, Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews score higher than whites, who score higher than blacks, on IQ tests, has exactly -0- "racist" content whatsoever. IT'S JUST A FACT, like acknowledging that different races tend to have different skintones is a FACT. Don't like it? Oppose the FACTS with your own data instead of hollering "raciss!!"
     
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  8. Lesh

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    WHICH mainstream conservative groups on the SPLC list

    Did you list?

    You gave us two links to a fever swamp blog ,

    THIS one

    The Capital Research Center came under fire in the 1990s for publishing studies highly critical of charities which engaged in anti-tobacco lobbying efforts.[23] These charities include the American Heart Association, the American Lung Association and the American Cancer Society. It was later revealed that tobacco giant Philip Morris provided $50,000 in funding to the Capital Research Center
     
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    They've been shown, time and time again, to be fast and loose with their designations.

    Don't react in a kneejerk fashion.
     
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    Great. Which groups are you claiming were improperly added to their list?
     
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    Not groups, people. Of course, you and I will likely disagree about who counts as an "extremist." Ayaan Hirsi Ali, really? I don't like her very much, because she's a puritanical progressive universalist, an attitude I find annoying.

    I'm going to go with the clearest example I can, their treatment of a reasonable liberal Muslim named Maajid Nawaz.
     
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    "The Southern Poverty Law Center has accused Nawaz of being an "anti-Muslim extremist"

    Which he pretty clearly is. You may agree with his views but that doesn't change his rhetoric
     
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    He is so clearly not an extremist that I'm convinced you're dropping acid.

    I'm not asking you to fully read these two articles or watch this whole debate, but just skip through them to get the idea:

    Read this article: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...ants-him-deported_uk_57c1ccc9e4b035d5604f37a1

    Now this one: https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ajid-nawaz-splc-anti-muslim-extremist/505685/

    Watch this debate:
     
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    What do they do with the ten of millions in off-shore accounts? Since when do American non-profits need off-shore accounts? There is something very suspect about them beyond just their bias.
     
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    It is if you use exactly the same tactics.
     
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    Aww, bless, a Nawaz/Hirsi Ali apologist is wagging a crooked finger at me.
     
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    WTF does that mean?
     
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    Because they dont?

    Here's their audited financial statement. Its totally on the up and up. Have you heard of the concept of a diversified investment portfolio?


    https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/splc_fs_103116.pdf
     
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    Which is all well and good. As long as they give equal negative attention to slimy operators on the left. Do they?
     
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    Actually, also to a non-racist too, if there is any bias against a particular racial group in their activities. Is there?
     
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    Of course he did. He's nothing if not an overgrown teenager, very big on posturing when it comes to first world problems.
     
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    You have no idea where I stand in relation to either of them. Indeed, I doubt that you could even summarize the thrust of their arguments.

    That's fine, I suppose. Nuance is anathema to the puritanical.
     
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    What is your defense of the SPLC?
     
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    None needed. They are being attacked by the same people who supported the Nazis and Klan in Charlottesville
     
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