Mueller Finds 10 Obstruction Cases That Barr Says Aren't Crimes

Excellent why not indict him for "dangling." Does nobody accept reality for what it is?

 

Read what I quoted from the former prosecutors' letter. He didn't just attempt to obstruct; he took action to obstruct.

He has no legal right to obstruct.

He can only know about himself.

Hundreds of former federal prosecutors think he did.

 

Because of the Justice Dept rule that a sitting President can't be indicted. We can disagree with the rule, but it ain't going away. In theory, Trump could be indicted for this after leaving office - but if he were to be indicted under a Democratic administration, it would give the appearance of political payback. So the only practical thing to do is impeach (it's equivalent to an indictment).

 

Who gives a ****. Trump is aiding is genocide in Yemen and this is what people are focusing on?

 

That sounds reasonable only on the surface.

Suppose Sam has committed a crime, and that Joe has incriminating knowledge of that crime. Sam gives Joe a large sum of money to refrain from fully and truthfully reporting what he knows to investigators. The DA then decides not to indict Sam because there's insufficient evidence. Later, the DA learns Sam gave Joe a lot of money and there's evidence it was related to Joe's testimony.

In this case, Sam obstructed the investigation, but - there was no crime charged. Shouldn't Sam's action be considered criminal obstruction?

 

Yeah, sure--I'm going to cut-and-paste 700+ names for your amusement.

https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement-by-former-federal-prosecutors-8ab7691c2aa1

 

Look at the end of the letter.

 

I'd go so far as to say that the Trump campaigned colluded with Russia. It's not illegal to collude unless it rises to criminal conspiracy, but I'm tired of Trumpists shouting out "no collusion." It is collusion because they were working together.

 

This is exactly what Mueller could not find, evidently Trump and these Russians sought the same thing, directed efforts and took action with common goals, but they never actually worked together. As Mueller explains, collusion isn't a crime, the crime is criminal conspiracy and coordination for an unlawful purpose. He didn't find any evidence of this, he found evidence Russians and members of Trump's campaign team both separately sought Hillary's emails, both used social media to promote very similar policies and agendas, both targeted Hillary and her campaign -but they never coordinated their efforts, no evidence of any cooperation between Russians and members of Trump's campaign team was ever found. There was no conspiracy, no agreement, no engagement, just common goals separately sought.

 

I agree there's no prosecutable case for criminal conspiracy against Trump. Trump merely publicly lied, repeatedly, about his dealings with Russia. I get the impression that Trump supporters think it's perfectly fine to lie so much, as long he's not under oath. What's up with that?

 

Not true

It is the DOJ FBI AND CIA Deep State swamp rats who lied about trump

 

look a little harder.

 

As to whether or not individuals in those organizations lied, that has no relevance as to Trump lying. To the matter at hand, Mueller documented a number of cases of Trump telling public lies.

Trump lied numerous times about having business connections to Russia during the campaign. He lied about the infamous "Trump Tower meeting", claiming it only dealt with adoptions. Trump lied about his private conversation with Comey in which he asked for Comey's loyalty (Mueller indicated there was sufficient supporting evidence to confirm Comey's rendition over Trump's). Besides Trump himself, there were numerous lies told by members of his administration or business - lies that the White House never attempted to correct (e.g. Michael Cohen's false testimony about Trump Tower Moscow) - so there's culpability for perpetuating a false narrative. And let's not forget his lie about having knowledge of the Stormy Daniels payoff.

 

If you think trump lied to the voters there will be a chance to punish him for that in the 2020 election

Liberals are just sore losers and want to deny trump his victory

 

Amorality.

 

This BS is getting real f-ing old. You excuse damn near everything President Pond Scum does. Worse still, you swallow whole the propaganda about his alleged accomplishments and regurgitate them on the forum.

 

"Deep state?"

 

I agree. But you were responding to my issue, regarding why Trump supporters don't seem to care a bit that their man lies so much. Explain why you're OK with it.

 

Trump russia collusion?

Thats true tinfoil bs

 

Nice find!

 

He's totally "'zonerated"?

 

If thats how you want to put it its easier to let you run with it than wasted hours of my time arguing with you over nonsense

 

There are people who will always believe in UFO's Bigfoot, ghosts and Russia made Hillary lose to Donald Trump.

 

Totally

Thats why libs are pushing obstruction with no underlying crime

 

So move on. It is over.