Mueller invokes unusual ‘conspiracy to defraud government’ charge to ensnare more targets

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  1. k995

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    I actually said he was not involved in the actual investigation. Whatever that became in your head I dont know but thats still reality.
     
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    Aka you tried to change the subject.

    Again the issue was the investigation itself not just collusion.

    Again I can only repeat what I said before: republicans were concerned about russian interference in the elections and republicans started and controle the investigations.
    Nothing to do with democrats.

    The rest is more changing the subject to try and include democrats in this.
     
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    A prosecutor who makes "unusual" charges or ticky-tack charges is one desperate to find something because he can't find real or important stuff.
     
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    This is making me weary. The isue was posted explicitly and clearly as collusion with an explicit and clear statement distinguishing it for other meddling. If you can't read plain English I can not help it and I will no longer try. Before you dig deeper and repeat "the Republicans started it" answer my question about the FBI wanting to check out the RNC and DNC (as only two examples of many.)
     
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    Nope thats what you wanted to change it into after you lost the "its the democrats fault" argument .

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...re-more-targets.528339/page-9#post-1068825753

    k995 said:
    Mueller is a republican, given an assignment/task/job by a republican congress under an republican administration.
    Where do you see the democrats here?

    This investigation headed by a republican special councel started when a republican deputy attorny general under a republican president and a republican administration with a republican congress ordered it.

    This has nothing to with democrats no matter how many times you try to change the subject.
     
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    Enjoyed this.

    You’re proving the president’s point when you talk about the intel chiefs like they’re vengeful hatchet men.

    To suggest former and current intelligence chiefs are not to be criticized or questioned because they know where the bodies are buried is to concede the president’s claim that the community has grown too unaccountable and overloaded with unethical actors.”
     
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    RodB said:
    This is making me weary. The isue was posted explicitly and clearly as collusion with an explicit and clear statement distinguishing it for other meddling.
    Here's a quote from me in one of the earlier posts.
    "As opposed to Russia meddling in our process in general, Russia-Trump collusion wasn't on anybody's radar until it suddenly became a primary issue the day after the election."
    You'll have to get someone else to help with your comprehension of English.
    The argument was the start of the investigation of Russian meddling, period. Now you retreat to "Oh! I was talking about the special prosecutors investigation" which of course didn't even start until May 2017. This is why you won't answer my question of who started Russian meddling investigation that occurred in 2015. Discussions with people who arbitrarily and unilaterally change the subject hoping no one will notice is a waste and impossible.
     
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    What would have happened had the FISA court justices been apprised by the FBI and the Justice Department that the submitted Steele dossier was
    a) paid for by Hillary Clinton,
    b) impossible to verify by the FBI, and
    c) the sole source for news stories that were being used in circular fashion to corroborate the dossier’s veracity?
     
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    Conspiracy to defraud the government isn't really unusual.
     
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    The liberal FISA judges would have told the FBI to come back with better evidence wink wink, like they did in August.

    The FISA court hasn't done **** because they were in on it. They knew the FBI's evidence was bullshit. They knew the FBI was lying. They just needed something do they could claim plausible deniability.
     
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    Meanwhile, we’re still waiting for one shred of evidence that Hillary even got a parking ticket. There isn’t even anyone investigating her.

    Typical Republican behavior. Lie, lie and lie, and maybe more Republicans will believe those lies.

    Meanwhile, drip, drip, drip, Republican voters have to keep defending their votes for a con man liar as more and more facts come to light about his criminal acts.

    Say it with me: “Cambridge Analítica” !

    LMAO
     
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    You talk about intellectual void AND you're a trump supporter. Consistency isn't one of your strong suits.
     
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    Oh, so silly........
     
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    McCabe's Mea-Non-Culpa Editorial in the, Get This, Washington Post: I Didn't Intentionally Mislead Anybody. My Answers Weren't "Fully Accurate," But I Was Confused

    Okay, then riddle me this, Andy's Office:

    Why is Jeff Sessions still recused from overseeing the Russia Hoax then?

    He was certainly "confused" by Al Franken's bafflingly recursive question.

    Why is it liberals like you and Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton are always merely "confused" when you give what you admit answers which are not "fully accurate"?

    On March 16, I spent the day with my family waiting to hear whether I would be fired, after 21 years in the FBI and one day before I qualified for my long-planned, earned retirement.

    As day turned to night, I had a lot of time to reflect on how it would feel to be separated from the organization I loved -- and led -- and the mission that has been the central focus of my professional life. Despite all the preparation for the worst-case scenario, I still felt disoriented and sick to my stomach. Around 10 p.m., a friend called to tell me that CNN was reporting that I had been fired. She read me the attorney general's statement
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    So much drama he could be an 8th grade Goth Girl whose parents JUST TOTALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE!!!

    So, after two decades of public service, I found out that I had been fired in the most disembodied, impersonal way -- third-hand, based on a news account.

    Kind of how Reince Priebus learned of your leaks -- third-hand, in a news report.

    Shortly after getting word, I noticed an email from a Justice Department official in my work account, telling me that I had been "removed from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the civil service."

    I have been accused of "lack of candor." That is not true. I did not knowingly mislead or lie to investigators
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    Just like his heroes the Clintons: "I did not knowingly know what I doingly did, not ever, not one time."

    See-- I lacked intent. Ask my good friend James Comey about that.

    When asked about contacts with a reporter that were fully within my power to authorize as deputy director, and amid the chaos that surrounded me, I answered questions as completely and accurately as I could.

    But, alas, the most complete and accurate answers were, through no fault of my own, lies.

    And when I realized that some of my answers were not fully accurate or may have been misunderstood, I took the initiative to correct them.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you "took the initiative to correct them" a little bit after you caught wind you were being investigated for these false answers.

    At worst, I was not clear in my responses, and because of what was going on around me may well have been confused and distracted -- and for that I take full responsibility. But that is not a lack of candor. And under no circumstances could it ever serve as the basis for the very public and extended humiliation of my family and me that the administration, and the president personally, have engaged in over the past year.

    Easily confused and distracted -- just want we want in the Deputy Director of the FBI.

    Not in my worst nightmares did I ever dream my FBI career would end this way.

    In your worst nightmares did you leak and lie about it all the time?

    "I was confused and distracted when I provided false answers to investigators." -- Andrew McCabe.
    Also, said by approximately 10,000 other people prosecuted by his own FBI for obstruction of justice and making false statements.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/374476.php
     
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    And thats already been refuted thats not the same investigation. You really have to make up some other BS if you want to blame democrats why republcians started an investigation into their own president.
     
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    Really? Mueller is not doing the investigation that the Deputy AG, Rosenstein, gave him an official order to investigate?? Then what is he doing, and why am I helping pay $millions so he can do whatever it is he's doing?

    Or did I miss your point: are bringing up that old dead horse and meme that the Republicans started it again??????
     
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    Thats simply reality , it is possible of course you simply dont know how the federal gov and or special councils work . Seeing what you all wrote thats a distinct possibility.

    Reality :

    On May 17, 2017, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller, a former Director of the FBI, to serve as Special Counsel for the United States Department of Justice (DOJ). In this capacity, Mueller oversees the investigation into "any links and/or coordination between Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".[14] As special counsel, Mueller has the power to issue subpoenas,[15] hire staff members, request funding, and prosecute federal crimes in connection with the election interference.[16]

    Donald Trump
    Rod Rosenstein
    Jeff Sessions
    Robert Mueller

    Political party : Republican

    Democrats did it :lol:
     
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    throw Clapper in that bunch, he says his evil twin made him do it

     
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    She broke many laws that involve the handling of classified info and national security. But since she had the FBI and the Justice Dept. in her hip pocket nobody investigated anything seriously at all. With all we know today anybody with a brain can see that.
     
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    Guess no one in the Republican controlled DOJ has a brain.

    Meanwhile, anyone with a brain can see that Donnie and his family belong in Federal prison.

    What is keeping them out ? ( besides partisan hackery)
     
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