Mueller probing Russia contacts at Republican convention

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    His post included......CrowdStrike, the private cyber-security firm that first accused Russia of hacking Democratic Party emails and served as a critical source for U.S. intelligence officials in the years-long Trump-Russia probe, acknowledged to Congress more than two years ago that it had no concrete evidence that Russian hackers stole emails from the Democratic National Committee’s server.........which is not true.
    This is all part of the revisionist history trying to be created out of half truths, deceptions, and lies in order discredit Mueller's and the SIC's reports. It's why Durham is still flailing around (something he's been doing for 3 years now) looking for any scrap of BS he can try to sensationalize.
     
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    The lack of any successful prosecution of the conspiracy already discredited it. The lack of evidence uncovered by the FBI and the Special Counsel(and not for lack of looking, as we later learned) should have itself been a red flag, the investigation should have closed as early as September-October of 2017, instead it continued all the way out to 2019!

    The only fraud perpetuated was that of the Special Counsel, I still have fumes over that debacle in American History. if I were in power right now, I'd order a review of all agencies, to find where the fault lines lie and get rid of them. Intelligence failure must not be accepted. Mistakes? Sure, failure? Never, the costs are too great.
     
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    Other than Durham proving Clinton's lawyer lied to the FBI and getting Mook to admit Hillary Clinton herself green-lit the entire operation under oath today.

    But other than that, sure. You guys founds lots of Russian collusion between Trump and Putin.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary Clinton herself green-lit the entire operation under oath today.

    Is that the fantasy right wing media is spinning these days? You do realize nothing Durham is doing will change the facts revealed by Mueller and the SIC, right?
     
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    No, that's the testimony of her campaign manager, Robby Mook.

    Yes, I realize that nothing changes the fact that Mueller spent millions finding nothing and diverting from the truth.

    The truth that we now know is the the entire Russian collusion narrative was created and promulgated by democrats, the media, their government assets.

    Exactly what I've been saying for years.

    Enjoy the show.
     
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    Exactly the opposite is true. Aside from the overwhelming evidence of Russia's help in getting Trump elected detailed in Mueller's report, the fact Manafort gave internal polling data to a Russian operative that ended up in the Kremlin, the fact Donnie J only avoided being charged with conspiracy for the Trump Tower meeting because Mueller determined Donnie was too stupid to know he was breaking the law, there's all that evidence Trump obstructed Mueller's investigation on multiple occasions. None of that changes if Sussmann is convicted of lying. Nor does it change the reason the FBI initiated Crossfire Hurricane.
     
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    Sure.

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    At best, the reason the FBI initiated crossfire hurricane is that they were zealous fools who clearly have no idea of statecraft(this of course is not ideal for our secret police.) At worst, they intentionally knew the lacking evidence and pursued it anyway for political purposes. Either way, Reagan's warnings of the CIA, etc were obviously well founded. A national security review is vastly needed, and we need a independent reviewer for that in of itself. All someone like Wray would do is put lipstick on a pig.
     
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    Moreover, there is no way Mueller didn't know about this.

    That means the FBI intentionally ignored and KNEW the entire source of the Russian Collusion narrative was false and they acted on it anyway with FISA warrants.
     
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    ""there is no way Mueller didn't know about this""
    Not only did Mueller, the FBI knew, CIA, Obama, Biden, all our intelligence agencies knew...

    All documented... and undeniable.... The Obama Whitehouse was in on it... how much more "in your face" can you get and no one goes to jail..

    Strange how our Republican special prosecutor Mueller missed this.... maybe he did not do a very good job of investigation...


    ""Former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s “plan” to tie the Trump campaign to Russia as a means of distracting the public from her private email server scandal before the 2016 election, according to newly declassified documents.""
    https://news.yahoo.com/dni-releases-cia-documents-hillary-204337457.html
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-brennan-notes-cia-memo-clinton
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/0...ral-on-clinton-campaigns-collusion-operation/

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    "That means the FBI intentionally ignored and KNEW the entire source of the Russian Collusion narrative was false"

    But it wasn't false. We know the FBI began Crossfire Hurricane because of a tip from an Australian diplomat following a conversation with Papadopoulos. If the FBI wanted to harm Trump's campaign why didn't it leak the existence of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation before the election?

    The FBI investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia was originally known as “Crossfire Hurricane” before it was widely known to the public and even the bureau itself, officials told The New York Times.

    The case, named after a Rolling Stones lyric, was used by only the small group of agents sent to interview the Australian ambassador to the United Kingdom, who had evidence of possible collusion between Russia and a Trump adviser.

    Five agents embarked to London in the summer of 2016 for a rare interview with the diplomat after deliberations between American and Australian officials, where they gathered information that would provide the basis for the Russia probe that is still ongoing.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...robe-was-first-codenamed-crossfire-hurricane/

    It's remarkable at this late date you folks still believe the garbage the former Liar-in-Chief is spewing.
     
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    Yes they definitely knew it was false.. along with Obama and Biden, etc

    ""Former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s “plan” to tie the Trump campaign to Russia as a means of distracting the public from her private email server scandal before the 2016 election, according to newly declassified documents.""
    https://news.yahoo.com/dni-releases-cia-documents-hillary-204337457.html
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-brennan-notes-cia-memo-clinton
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/0...ral-on-clinton-campaigns-collusion-operation/
     
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    blah blah blah

    Enjoy the show.
     
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    There was Logan Act, an act which has never been used against anyone, violation his conversation with a foriegn dignitary was perfectly normal and expected by someone in his position.
     
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    Please explain what the “dirt” on Hillary was.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm overwhelmed by the effectiveness of your rebuttal. ;)
     
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    Nope.

    Here's what Michael Flynn admitted he lied to the FBI about
    The former national security adviser pleads guilty to lying about two conversations with the Russian ambassador.
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/1/16724742/michael-flynn-plead-guilty-lied-fbi
     
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    The 302’s that were edited after words by Strzok showed they did not think Flynn lied and he was not a Russian agent.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...didnt-believe-he-was-trying-to-lie-notes-show
     
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    Damn. You really bought it hook line and sinker. Weird how you don't seem at all angry at the folks that lied to you. for years. Look at all this embarrassing stuff you posted and how deeply you believed it. Sad!

    Durham has Sussman dead to rights, but, it's a DC jury the most political town in America and D+95. If it proves that DC Dem crooks cannot be convicted by a DC jury, then we'll need to move these executive agencies out of the beltway.
     
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    Which were not illegal and expected types of conversations by the NSA of a Presidential transition team. And of course we know he copped the plea after the prosecutors threatened to go after his son on totally bogus charges and that plea was later withdrawn after the exculpatory evidence the prosecutors had withheld, that the FBI agents did not believe he was withholding information, was discovered.
     
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    Based on the phony claims Crowdstrike had determined it. Remember the FBI never got to inspect the servers Clinton wouldn't let them and turned them over to Crowdstrike which produced the false narrative.

    FBI never examined hacked DNC servers itself: report
    According to one intelligence official who spoke to the publication, no U.S. intelligence agency has performed its own forensics analysis on the hacked servers.

    {mosads}Instead, the official said, the bureau and other agencies have relied on analysis done by the third-party security firm CrowdStrike, which investigated the breach for the DNC.

    “Crowdstrike is pretty good. There’s no reason to believe that anything that they have concluded is not accurate,” the intelligence official told BuzzFeed.
    https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/312767-fbi-never-examined-hacked-dnc-servers-report/

    And now we know Crowdstrike never found any evidence Russia had anything to do with it.
     
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    Read the cited article.
     
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    ""Yes, and this is also supported by the U.S. Intelligence community and independent Congressional reports."" No ""U.S. Intelligence community"" did not back it up.

    and we had our best of the best intel who write a full blown report that they themselves say is a bunch of unverified garbage.

    Talk about a snow job.

    Background to “Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections”: The Analytic Process and Cyber Incident Attribution


    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
     
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    That is all a lie... wow a crowdstrike article about how great crowdstrike did
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    (Transcript CrowdStrike President Shawn Henry) reiterated his claim on multiple occasions:

    "There are times when we can see data exfiltrated, and we can say conclusively. But in this case it appears it was set up to be exfiltrated, but we just don’t have the evidence that says it actually left."

    "There’s not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated. There's circumstantial evidence but no evidence that they were actually exfiltrated."

    "There is circumstantial evidence that that data was exfiltrated off the network. … We didn't have a sensor in place that saw data leave. We said that the data left based on the circumstantial evidence. That was the conclusion that we made."

    "Sir, I was just trying to be factually accurate, that we didn't see the data leave, but we believe it left, based on what we saw."

    Asked directly if he could "unequivocally say" whether "it was or was not exfiltrated out of DNC," Henry told the committee: "I can't say based on that."

    Hidden Over 2 Years: Dem Cyber-Firm's Sworn Testimony It Had No Proof of Russian Hack of DNC
    https://iotwreport.com/declassified...uldnt-say-for-sure-russians-stole-dnc-emails/

    https://www.realclearinvestigations...d_no_proof_of_russian_hack_of_dnc_123596.html

    https://justthenews.com/government/...-crowdstrike-unsure-if-fbi-confirmed-russians

    transcript here......
    https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/sh21.pdf

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