Mueller Report

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  1. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    Great post. Did you serve in Korea?
     
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    The biggest revival of our economy was due to the other major competing countries destroyed by war. We now have competition which changes the mix.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct of course. I was speaking of the rush to high employment due to the needs of WW2. But the end of the war gave us payments to our own people for work done to restore the war damaged world. At home returning troops unable to spend the bulk of earnings in combat had cash to burn. They engaged in buying homes and autos and other goods and services. Back in those days, i recall seeing signs on home projects that a vet could buy a home with $99 cash out of pocket. Can't do that today.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I served in Germany from 1962-1964 ... in months it was 15.5 of those.
     
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    FDR stopped the slide, but he failed to restore the economy to the point that it brought down unemployment to acceptable levels.

    My grandmother died in 1932 when my father was 11. My grandfather left my father with neighbors and cut brush with the CCC, one step above digging holes and filling them up.
    We should never send our guys to war without the proper equipment. We did it again in Iraq and Afghanistan. I admit to bias--one uncle was a Maj, Gen. USA, one a Col. USAF, my father was a Marine in WW2, and my father-in-law a Col. USAF.
    We screwed up in not dealing with the mullahs. I blame Carter for that. When stuff happens on your watch, you have to deal with it. Carter was toadying to "Peace Now!" leftwingers who think you can have peace if you want it. I have the same objection to Obama over pulling our guys out of Iraq and Syria early and letting ISIL create a caliphate. I also didn't like his working with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
     
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    Well done. Thanks for your service. My Dad flew in WW2, tail end, no combat but then graduated to jets and flew in Korea. What a great man, he was.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As the company clerk for a battalion HQ company, i was well acquainted with our operational readiness for war.

    Typing up reports to the IG for his inspection teaches a person a lot if they only read what they type. And check with the Supply as well. We would have our motorpool Sgt go to the adjacent Battalion to gather up parts to try to restore our vehicles to operational. This did not fool me of course. A thing troops must have are large quantities of camouflage nets. Most forget the value of those but troops in combat remember. We were very low on those too. Your dad and my mom were about the same age. Some of my family did that as well for FDR make work projects. A reason why my uncles enlisted in the Army was due to lack of jobs so the Army paid them monthly.

    I never met the relative in person but he helped me at Ft. Dix. Mom wanted me to leave Ft. Dix for a trip to NY City for a short visit. I was told at the orderly room to forget any pass. She called a relative, a major General and he got me out of Ft. Dix for 2 days. At Schweinfurt I was chatting with an officer who leaned against a door so I did not see his rank. He wanted me to do two things. Go to OCS for a commission and return to his unit in combat engineers in Germany. He had stars on his shoulder that I finally did see. A very nice General.

    At the airfield,.it was so extra casual around the officers we got used to senior officers showing up. They were not requiring us to salute all the time.
     
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    In 1962, prior to my going to Germany, I was a good friend with a Marine Major who flew fighter jets. I would have loved to go flying with him. Our landlord of the commercial shop we both rented was a retired Navy Commander. He gave me tips for going into the Army. I had one uncle who became a command Sgt Major in the Air Force where prior he was in the Army Air Corps. He commanded men who repaired the B-52 bombers. But he was the kind not to talk about what he did. At least not to we who were a lot younger than him.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A lot of people can't appreciate how great those men of that era were. I sure do.
     
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    Honestly, flying is just a feeling that people love or hate. I love it, so did my Father. My Dad never talked much about Korea but he talked a lot about WW2. He was flying CAP when the war was just about over and the Japanese were pretty much done. Talked a lot about how bored and mundane things were but got a lot of training that helped him later.

    Funny story: My Dad kept some notes and other momentos from his days flying and I noticed a BUNO number ( AC ID, they all have one, it was in his training jacket logs) on one of the F-4's. It turns out, that F-4 was in my squadron, training squadron out of Lemoore, CA. Tracked to VF-125 FRAMP. Long story short, one of my first training missions was in his old jet. Not sure who was more proud. :)
     
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    Me too. The greatest generation, by far. Too bad our youth have lost that magic and appreciation.
     
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    Yep, the House can't start an Impeachment process with anything within the Mueller Report at this point.
     
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    Democrats are begging Mueller to testify, they are unhappy he did not indict an innocent man.
     
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    I remember seeing stories about our guys making up their own floor amor for Humvees in Iraq. That sort of problem leaves me cold.
    The CCC was often useless make-work.
    Generals make things happen. My cousin was stationed in Germany and he was accused of stealing a watch. He would have never done anything like that. He was about to get screwed good when my uncle (Maj. Gen.) gets on the phone to a Major and told him he wanted to make sure my cousin was treated fairly. It all went away. Just like snapping your fingers.
     
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    No, it doesn't. You don't seem to understand how pols work the folks.
     
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    Useless Hillary ... 65,844,610 votes. Orange Oaf ... 62,979,636. Useless Hillary won the popular vote by 2,864,974. You guys act like knowing about the Electoral College is a big deal.
     
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    In Kuwait after the IED problem surfaced, men in the Army up armored the HUMVEE with various scrap iron. I recall what you are telling me. The HUMVEE was never designed to carry that much weight. And later DOD designed a brand new heavy armor vehicle to carry men where IEDS were.

    I don't recall why but after I returned to CA, Mom never mentioned the General to me again. I have been thinking again and believe he was her cousin.

    i used to explain Generals to the public this way. i told them there is about the same difference in being a 2nd Lt to a Col as from a Col to a General. It is shocking the difference that one rank makes.
     
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    I was also in the CAP when I was in high school. I lacked transportation to the meeting place so did not last long. I am a pilot but not in Jets. Fastest Plane I have flown is the Mooney 201. But it is a thrill as well. I doubt I ever will pilot a jet, but would love to. Amazing you and your dad were in the same jet. Very kool.
     
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    Yep, yep... our forum seems to be full of folks who do not understand and a few teachers trying their best to make'm. :applause:
     
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    Well, CAP actually stands for Combat Air Patrol. I should have explained that portion. Aircraft are sent aloft for defensive purposes to protect an objective, such as an airfield or ships, etc. They also used to scout for enemy planes and to then engage and shoot them down. Like the Navy CBG's almost always have a CAP mission going along with support aircraft like an E-2 Hawkeye and a refueler. It used to be the F-14's (and their vaunted AIM-54 long range missiles) that provided cover for the group but they have since been retired. It now falls on the F/A-18 Super Hornets. Or as we called them, "bugs".

    So my Father flew CAP off of the islands around Japan seeking out enemy aircraft and ships that may be in the area. Got a glimpse of a small ship or plane now and again but never got into actual combat.
     
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    It's making fun of the guy.
     
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    I ran political campaigns, genius. And you don't understand how pols work.

    This forum is full of gullible Trump supporters.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    We should have demanded they hand them over with the threat of overwhelming force to come and get them. We should have added that killing them would have resulted in regime change.
     
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    The first chart shows the long-term pattern up to five years ago and the second chart shows the median wage for the last five years. You have the full picture of the problem in our economy--workers aren't sharing in our economic growth. The last two years show Trump is making even less progress improving the median wage than Obama did in his last three years.

    If you take the two graphs together, you see the problem spans both Democratic and Republican Administrations. Are workers lazy and therefore deserve less? If they are, why is the economy growing?
     

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