Mueller should submit his report soon, Trump is getting dangerous

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kode, please explain to me why Clinton asked for the special council to be appointed again?
    it was his bright idea in the first place.
     
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    I was stating the fact that Trump supporters WOULD continue to support him IN THE EVENT that evidence was shown that he committed treason. LEARN TO READ.
     
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    You are probably correct. A prosecutor, especially one specially appointed to carry out a specific investigation, NEVER EVER walks away with nothing, no matter how trivial (though of course blown up with tons of hot air) nor how long it takes. To do that he'd have to be limited to just searching for the truth which no prosecutor ever is.
     
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    Can you correctly define "treason"?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong .... Treason is extremely serious and none of us would support that. But that is not remotely close to what Trump does. it is a stupid thing to speak of him and use the word Treason to begin with.
     
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    Treason to democrats is doing what Obama did but only when Obama did the same thing, for him it was not treason. Funny how they think.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do any of you recall him (op creator) doing all this whining when the same things were done by Obama?
     
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    Learn to post. What you were implying is clear. Don't bother denying it.
     
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    Mueller is not investigating to pursue charges of guilt by association, but to learn whether Trump or his campaign colluded with foreign entities to influence his own election.
     
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    Of course not. Clinton was investigated by a controlled and limited scope prosecutor for reasonable suspicion of wrong doing. It was mostly the outgrowth of his investigation that triggered impeachment hearings five or six years after he was inaugurated and after his investigation had begun. Trump is being investigated for Russian coordination (well, he is being investigated for far more than that, but the Russian coordination is all Mueller is legally authorized to investigate), and talk of his impeachment began even before he was president! That is as subtle as a train wreck.

    I personally think the justification for Clinton's impeachment was weak, but it at least followed the process intended by the constitution. Trump's impeachment train does not come close to constitutional intent, ergo his "impeachment" (or whatever convenience might be glommed onto -- 25th amendment, subpoena, indictment, maybe just hounding to death, etc.) is a camouflaged coup d' etat. Nixon's removal looked a little more -- very little more -- like a coup d' etat than the Clinton effort.
     
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    So far, the only evidence is that FACEBOOK did. Trump clearly did not.
     
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    Don't be silly, TOG 6. Of course thinkitout cannot define treason, let alone "high treason," whatever that is. --- evidently thinks treason is like pouring beer on cereal.
     
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    All Clinton was impeached for is his lying to law enforcement agents.

    The claim it was over a BJ by democrats is stone crazy talk.

    The reason why the full stuff on Clinton is not public knowledge is the Senate sat on the entire evidence. What they said during the trail was fluff. They ignored a full room of collected evidence enough to remove Clinton. We saw the tip of the iceberg is all.

    The democrat attorney that handled this for the congress was so outraged that Clinton escaped justice he wrote a tell all book. Even he did not disclose all the evidence. nobody will know the truth until they read this book. I read it when it came out.

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    But you do have to admire that fast move Texas Two Step shuffle to the right.....
     
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    How is that any different from the implications of: " I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters"???
     
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    Can you correctly define "treason"?
     
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    Americans are tired of their President making a fool of himself on a daily basis and creating a new crisis every week. This has to cease and Mueller's report is a start. Many would love to change the subject to possible impeachment proceedings or possible indictment proceedings against Trump if for no other reason than to wipe that stupid grin off his face. He creates havoc in his wake and he is proud of it.

    Currently there are three crises, all of which have been created by our President. Just in recent months he has lost the services of his attorney general, the U.N. ambassador, the White House counsel, the Interior Secretary, Trump's chief of staff, Trump's favored replacement for chief of staff, and the Defense Secretary. There have been no confirmation hearings to replace them.

    Trump is responsible for the government shutdown. How do we know that? He said so to a national television audience (and to Chuck) on December 11.Trump since has changed his mind. Now he blames the Democrats and Nancy Pelosi.

    Trump surrendered Syria to ISIS, Russia, and Assad. That order was countermanded by Trump's NSA, John Bolton, who assured Netanyahu and our Kurdish allies that the U.S. will stay the course. Last month Trump declared "they’re coming back now," referring to our troops. Now he declares that Bolton's statements are "no different from my original statements."

    Actually, he comes out with dumb statements like these every single day. While all this was going on amid a grinding shutdown of the federal government that has left hundreds of thousands of employees without pay for weeks, Trump said he “can relate” to their plight.

    “I can relate, and I’m sure that the people that are on the receiving end will make adjustments — they always do — and they’ll make adjustments,” he told NBC’s Kelly O’Donnell.

    By the time Trump was eight, courtesy of his pop, Trump was a millionaire. Today he is a billionaire a few times over, again courtesy of pops. To say he can relate to families living from paycheck to paycheck is outrageously absurd. Trump knows that. So why did he say it? The answer is quite simple. He said it so it will make the six o'clock news. He will be the star once again and it matters not that he made himself look like a complete idiot.

    The latter story tells a couple things about Trump. No doubt when he makes himself look like an idiot, he thinks he is being funny. Also, it tells us that Trump is a sociopath. He is unable to feel remorse for the problems he has caused for the American people. The only thing that matters to Trump is Trump himself.

    Everyone can agree this is no way for an American President to act. Even his own fans can't defend such outrageous behavior. It is past time for Mueller's report. Things have to change. Another two years of the Trump Presidency, unchanged from the first two years, would be hell on Earth.
     
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    Minor correction: he was impeached for lying to a judge and a grand jury, too, and also for suborning perjury and witness tampering.
     
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    Unsupportable nonsense.
    The Democrats cannot force Trump from office.
    Trump knows this - and smiles.

    He's not going anywhere until at least January 2021 , and there's nothing you can do about it.
     
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    What we wish for has no correlation whatsoever with the truth. You know no more than I do about what Mueller's investigation has uncovered.
     
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    Can you correctly define "treason"?
     
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    Donald Trump bragging and boasting in a style pretty common for New Yorkers is hardly relevant to this discussion.
     
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    You can only wish.
     
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    That is why I am saying, Mueller is our only chance. Another two years of this Presidency could be very dangerous to America. His incompetence could reduce the U.S. to an afterthought. The only thing keeping us afloat is our strong economy. If that changes, we would be in trouble.
     
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    Well then do not assume he found any conspiracy joined by Trump or his team. Mueller thus far has filed legal charges that Russia used Facebook. That has still to be proven in courts of law.
     

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