Mueller should submit his report soon, Trump is getting dangerous

Nuance is the adults in the room, seeing the difference between a teenager stealing cigarettes at Walmarts, and grand theft of thousands of dollars of merchandise by the mob. I do not believe all perjury is equal or all obstruction is equal. I sure do not believe that they should all lead to impeachment.

 

...exactly as I described it.
You want your standard to apply both, or more, ways, as it suits you at the moment.
That's not the behavior of an adult.

Federal felonies are federal felonies.
Democrats do not believe perjury and obstruction committed while in office are impeachable offenses.
Period.

 

I agree, but it is still a matter of opinion, interpretation, and judgement. As bad a crime that perjury is, impeachment is not a criminal proceeding and I'm not sure that "egregious offenses against the people -- which was pretty much how the framers summed it up (and, whatever the hell it means ) -- includes perjury.

 

Wow you added a word1 'Federal'. That is a nuance. You already precluded past acts from consideration when the constitution does not. Another nuance. Getting scared already that nuance might matter in an impeachment case?

 

Of course there is. In fact unarmed coups are more common with constitutional styled or representative governments. Shoot, you can see the growth of one right here as I type.

 

In post 64. Pay attention.
Federal felonies are federal felonies.
Democrats do not believe perjury and obstruction committed while in office are impeachable offenses.
Period.

 

You can see a lot of scared trumpsters, trying to find a phrase that they can use, to tamp down on criticism of their wanna-be in chief. .

 

You want your standard to apply in whatever way it suits you best at a given moment.
That's not the behavior of an adult.

 

Should a Judge get away with what presidents can? Can a woman with a professional license get away with what presidents can?

Judge Walter Nixon lied under oath and for that lie was removed from office.
Barbara Battalino working for the VA, with a doctors and lawyers license lied about giving a patient a blow job. She was hauled into court and punished.

The patient sure must have been a hunk for a woman doctor to give him a blow job.

She is no good looker.

The woman on the left hand side with her hand to her face is not Barbara. Barbara is the heavy woman on the right side as you view the photo. She gave the patient his blow job.


Better photo of the perjurer Barbara.

Democrats mocked that Bill Clinton got a blow job.

This woman is no Monica Lewinsky but she was tried and found guilty in a court of law.

 

Sure he would have. He'd eventually have been compelled to comply with the subpoena.........which is why he "volunteered."

"The Supreme Court has never directly addressed whether a president can refuse to cooperate in a criminal investigation potentially involving his own conduct. That's because no president has ever fought such a request.

But in two other cases, the court has suggested that there's no authority for the president to decline."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...e-been-subpoenaed-here-s-what-they-ve-n870876

 

Pay attention 'Federal' works as an adjective to modify an noun. That is a nuance we don't need. Get rid of it. Crimes are crimes. The constitutional standard does not carve out when a high crime was committed, as some mercy to felons. Another nuance for your convenience. Get rid of it.

Republicans cannot see shades or context. Don't try to act like you can

 

"Criticism?" Is that how you describe the incessant words and actions taken against the president for over two years running now? How would you describe WWII? A backyard gang skirmish?
People were calling for Trump's impeachment before he was even president. I guess the Trump haters have no idea that you cannot impeach a civilian. Of course they don't care; they called for impeachment early on without citing any reason for it. He was just Trump and they wanted him gone ...... characteristics of a coup, not a constitutional transfer of power.

 

You want your standard to apply in whatever way it suits you best at a given moment.
That's not the behavior of an adult.

Federal felonies are federal felonies.
Democrats do not believe perjury and obstruction committed while in office are impeachable offenses.
Period.

 

Trump was implicated by his own lawyer...

 

Clinton lied to 2 judicial bodies and to Congress in his interrogatories.

 

Which has nothing to do with whether he would have been compelled to testify.

 

lol, yeah, the left should listen to pro-trumpitiers

the left is doing fine, be doing better once we vote Trump out in 2020

 

Trump has to do as Clinton, lie to two judicial bodies plus lie to congress under oath. Then they are comparable.

 

And in doing so, he committed 2 federal felonies - perjury and obstruction.
He was not removed from office because Democrats do not believe perjury and obstruction rise to the level of an impeachable offense.

 

Only if screaming uselessly at the sky is 'doing fine'.

 

I guess you are saying what you said has nothing to do with my comments. My comments are what actually happened for Clinton.

 

Did you read this book?

 

Free speech in political matters is now a symptom of a 'coup'? What did you call the effort of birthers to undermine Obama's legal authority before he was inaugurated, an outgrowth of civil discourse? This is hardball. You guys threw the first pitch. Get used to being hit.

 

There are no honest Democrats available to run against Trump.

 

You mean the Democrat lawyer that supported Hillary filing his lawsuit to prevent Obama from being elected. Sure we know all about Berg the Democrat lawyer. Trump got his ideas from the Democrats in fact.