Mueller's Trump-Russia Spy Was Actually Obama Spy Working For Ukraine

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  1. Horhey

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    Key figure that Mueller report linked to Russia was a State Department intel source - The Hill



    A source Mueller used to claim Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

    Another source Mueller used was the discredited private digital forensics company, Crowdstrike, which the DNC hired to examine their servers. The DNC didn't allow the FBI do it.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/is-skepticism-treason/

    FBI says DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers - CNNPolitics
    CNN.com

    Another serious discrepancy. The report by the "hand picked" members of 3 US intelligence agencies admitted that they are unable to prove the Russian hacking claim:
    A conspiracy theory by definition.

    A closer look at Robert Mueller.

    Mueller's FBI trained Egyptian State torturers.

    Cables: FBI trained Egypt's state security 'torturers' - RawStory

    Mueller helped sell the US invasion of Iraq.



    Plenty of other infractions but that's enough.
     
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    Funny the Mueller report never mentioned that.
     
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    One of the biggest frauds pushed on the public ever. A scheme to restart the Cold War and destract people from the corruption of the Democratic party. You cannot be progressive and embrace McCarthyism and militarism at the same time.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep Mueller was one of the key people in our intelligence community that convinced Bush that Iraq had WMD's.

    But the left claims we should trust him.

    lol
     
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    Russian bots and trolls were never the reason democrats lost the 2016 election. And Mueller probably didn't have the mandate or the political will to expose the real criminality of the Trump organization.

    And yes, Mueller was never the straight up white knight the Democratic Party were trying to make him out to be.
     
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    Nobody convinced Bush or Cheney of anything. The fix was in from the beginning.

    Mueller provided justification. The Bush Administration had made up their minds to attack Iraq days after 9/11.
    The Administration co-opted the intelligence community to cook the intelligence in order to try to justify taking out ex-ally Saddam.
     
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    More liberal lies.

    Bush made the decision based on what the intelligence services said and you have zero proof to the contrary.
     
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    You don't really believe that do you?

    According to CIA operatives like Ray McGovern or even Treasury Secretary, Paul O'Neill, Cheney was quoted as saying (I'm paraphrasing) We are going to take out Saddam. Make it happen. Even George Tenet and Richard Clark have confirmed this.

    Do you know who former secretary to Colin Powell, Larry Wilkerson is? Do you know what the PNAC was or who was involved?





     
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    So you are claiming that Bush wanted war and all the intelligence agencies fabricated data to make it happen?

    This data was also analyzed by nations all over the world and determined to be true.

    That is quite the hoax just to please Bush.

    Tell us, what did our intelligence agencies get out of this big lie?
     
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    Not so much W. who much like Trump did not really have a good grasp of foreign policy or what people in his own administration like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz really had in mind.

    The intelligence agencies including Tenet and repeatedly told them their was no evidence that Saddam had WMD or anything to do with 9/11 but as I've tried to show you it was the administrations policy to go to war so they disregarded anything that didn't fit the narrative of WMD and cooked up anything that justified going to war.

    Remember the Nigerian Yellowcake fiasco? Or perhaps you don't :(CIA agent Valerie Plume was outed by Cheney and lost her job because her husband refused to coo-berate the WH's ridiculous assertions to justify war.

    https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/aba-news-archives/2017/05/former_cia_spy_valer/

    That's why "some" intelligence officers went along....save their careers. Even Wilkerson says he wishes he would have resigned rather than take part in the lies.

    Here is General Wesley Clark's statement:





    Hard to believe you know so little about how your government operates. I hope you watch because a couple of minutes may open your eyes to what these people are up to and how they lie to the American people to justify war.

    As Clark says, the plan was to take out 7 countries with regime change under the PNAC - and with John Bolton at NS, the idiot plan and all it's consequences are still on the table with Iran.
     
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    And what was their need to go to war based on?

    What did they gain from the Iraq war?
     
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    If sincerely interested you should actually read the PNAC, particularly the addendum on "Rebuilding America's Defenses." I know Trump supporters don't like to read stuff but the reason they want war is all in there.

    If you want to put it into today's terms, what do they gain from economic war against Iran or Venezuela?

    Don't forget that John Bolton was a member and Eliot Abrams as signatory to the PNAC.
     

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