Muslims are hesitant to criticize other Muslims because Allah will punish them if they do

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    "Radical Muslims" are simply Muslims who follow the Islamic texts (and Mohammad's example) more closely, more as written.
     
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    The science of psychology dictates that humans are incapable of loving everyone else in the world.

    Are you saying Modern Secular Humanism is a belief that is anti-science?
     
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    Not all Muslims are terrorist. Most just aid, abet, and support them. Inside, they all want Jihad.
     
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    Well from the blatant deflection on this forum whenever the Islamic texts and Mohammad's barbarity are questioned, people sure do DEFEND those texts, that's for sure! Try condemning Mohammad on this forum for raping a 9 year-old little girl who was still playing with dolls and see what I mean, if you don't believe me! They will defend even PEDOPHILIA. They will defend the GENOCIDE of the "flood". The will defend SLAVERY (Mohammad was a slaver owner and enslaver - of non-Muslims). There is nothing that religious people won't defend - if not defending it would conflict with their invisible friend's teachings.
     
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    Yes. The problem is: how do we know WHICH currently "moderate" Muslim will start to follow the deeds of Mohammad (start to kill non-believers who stand in the way of implementing god's Law? We don't.
     
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    And of course they don't all HAVE to be for Islam/religion/faith to be a huge huge problem in the world.
    Not ALL Germans were Nazis, and not all Nazis participated in the Holocaust - but they didn't care enough to stop that - sounds just like the "moderate" Muslims of today, actually.
     
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    Your premise is wrong. Jesus/Qur'an both teach to hate non-believers (uh, you don't torture 70+billion people if you don't hate them.....), but we can, yes, can, Questerr, love those people instead of hating them. Questerr, if you had Jesus/Allah's alleged magical super-powers, would YOU let ethical non-believers like me into "heaven", and avoid "hell"? I would. I'd let you in, because I love you. How about you, Q, do you love me enough to say "yes" to that question?

    PS what is "anti-science" is "walking on water" (Jesus) and a "buraq" (the flying horse with wings in Islam). MSH is the most scientifically-correct overall belief system.
     
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    Psychology is not as accurate yet as some other sciences are. In 2000 years it will be pretty awesome though, I bet. Patience...patience.
     
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    Which is more scientifically-correct, Q: jinns, or MSH which says that Mohammad got it wrong because there are no jinns? Please pick one, Q.

    Have a great day.
     
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    See that's just it. You don't love Questerr. You don't even know him. It's dishonest and everyone knows it. It makes people hesitant to trust the veracity of what you say.
     
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    Science grows, changes, and improves....unlike the texts of religions. The Pope, for example, is an intellectual coward because he's too immoral to improve the texts that say to kill gays. Coward.
     
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    "Love" means caring for them enough to say this prayer: "God, please change your ways and let ethical non-believers into your heaven, and let them avoid your hell. Thanks."
    Do you love as much as I do, RiseAgainst? Will you join me and say this prayer. If not, then I'd like to serve as a role model for you.

    You seem to be under the impression that to love someone you have to get to know them - some people give their kidney to a complete stranger. Modern Secular Humanism can help show you love.
     
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    I love him enough to let him into heaven, and avoid hell, even if he's not a Modern Secular Humanist. By doing that, I just rose, morally, above Jesus, above Mohammad, above God of the Bible, and above Allah. Can you give a thumbs up to me doing that, RiseAgainst?
     
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    Noticed you tried to avoid the question there and deflect.
     
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    So you pick and choose which sciences you support and which you want to reject to back up your worldview and agenda?

    How theist of you.
     
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    Well your specific brand of MSH rejects science just in different ways, so I'm going to say both.
     
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    No it specifically does not mean that. Questerr is a bunch of pixels on a screen to you. You don't love pixels on a screen no matter how much you try to convince us otherwise.
     
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    You want religion to white-wash its history rather than just teach differently?
     
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    I have more imagination than you do, apparently. And many great artists have way more imagination than I do, so I'm not saying I'm the most imaginative person ever.
    We need to de-program the hatred that living in a Judao-Christian society has put in your head. By becoming a MSH you'll love more than Christians do, obviously.
    Have a great day.
     
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    We don't blindly follow science, like Christians/Muslim blindly follow their genocidal gods. Science is not perfect....MSH is not perfect either....just better than the Abrahamic faiths.
     
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    Not bringing forward, say, "kill gays" from those texts would not be all that bad, now would it? You are prioritizing keeping stuff the same over doing what's right. Shame - as innocent lives are at stake.

    Also, you conveniently didn't answer this simple question....and we of course know why: "Which is more scientifically-correct, Q: jinns, or MSH which says that Mohammad got it wrong because there are no jinns?"

    The reason you didn't answer that question is because you can't bring yourself to say that Allah/Mohammad got it wrong - that jinns are not scientifically-correct.
     
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    You want to live in an only black and white world - sorry, but it doesn't work that way, my friend.
    Like I said, psychology is always improving - which shows that it was previously, well, WRONG. But a MSH will admit that....a religious person won't admit that "ok, Jesus/Mohammad screwed up approving of slavery - they got that one wrong". Religious people lack humility.
     
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    Science isn't perfect. It responds to changing evidence and information. Do you have scientific evidence or information that contradicts current information regarding the psychology of love or religious beliefs?
     
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    Says the person who in that same post avoided THIS question: "Questerr, if you had Jesus/Allah's alleged magical super-powers, would YOU let ethical non-believers like me into "heaven", and avoid "hell"? Answer the question, Q.
     
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    I think we can both agree that it would be best if religions did that, too.
     

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