My 4 months as a prison guard in Louisiana

A board of realtors tribunal is just arbitrage.. not criminal court.

 

I guess you refuse to discuss professional juries.

 

I think its a stinking idea.

 

We have one poster who dwells on what our committee at the Board of Realtors could do.

She says they are not juries.

I beg to differ.

We were more peers to those charged than she dealt with.

Our verdicts had the force of law. If the person refused to fully pay, there was nothing to going to a superior court, showing our verdict and getting a summary judgment. No judge would retry it in fact.

We never put peers into jail, but at the same time, were we to discover law breaking, we could give the law our findings and they would take over.

My aim is to get people being charged a far better shake than they get right now.

To talk to me like the jury system work is nonsense.

It is all we have right now. Better than available globally I suppose. But perfect?

Nope, not close to perfect.

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Typically I hear this from the Democrats. How long have you voted Democrat?

Do you suppose you were really a Democrat all along?

I do wish posters who served on a jury would debate this with me. I get one liners out of Margot2.

 

I am not the sole citizen that finds the current system has serious flaws.

In the interest of not repeating, let me endorse all of these arguments that now follow.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-dimond/professional-jurors-has-t_b_867839.html

OK, Huffpo has a system that refuses to allow cut and paste.

So read her arguments. I read all of them.

I would not want some person taken from their job to perform surgery on me.

Suppose we used friends as lawyers? I mean is that a good idea?

I have known many lawyers. And while some were very bright and top students, they too have that bell curve.

If you get the worst of them, you are easy targets for a good prosecution team.

Prosecutors are also trained in their offices. And they also are selected by professionals.

Those charged for crimes do not hand pick lawyers.

Let me cite a personal example.

When my first wife filed for divorce, I sought advice from locals in my business as to whom to select to represent me.

At that time, I had but 7 years as a Realtor but still divorce was not my specialty.

I talked to a lawyer who I had sold his home first. He did not have years of experience. I knew my legal teacher who is a local lawyer was very good. I talked to him. I also went out of town and talked to a lawyer 15 miles away. I was told by a guy I knew, the guy really saved him during his divorce.

I asked my lawyer friend who I sold his home if he had to face Lawyer A that taught me law in college or face B who was 15 miles off, who would he think is the sharpest knife. This from a lawyer sent me to the guy 15 miles from me.

OK, I get supposedly the sharpest knife in the drawer. But this guy was a real piece of work. While he was extremely aggressive, he did not give a damn over my condition. I got told by him to stop selling. Try to not make any money at all. Try to lay low so he could tell the court I made no income.

Well, I did what he wanted. My former wife had drained all the cash from the company. I learned of it soon enough but that sure puts you in a fix.

It took a lot longer. I was miserable. I ended the case with a meeting with the ex who by that time wanted to marry the guy she cheated on me with so she was not the SOB she started out as. We completed our own divorce and I and her went to both lawyers and told them to end it. We in essence fired both lawyers upon them filing papers.

Yeah, my guy was a tough cookie. But I went through a heck of a mess I never would advise others to get into. I shudder to think he would represent a person in any criminal matter.

I believe that a court where the person is on trial has lawyers that can be awesome and the guy taking the side for the accused might not really care and lacks full training.

I know, passing the bar supposedly means you are good. But most of you have many times heard that there are some very poor lawyers still in courts of law.

Do you want help from a professional jury?

 

I heard they took away a prisoners ability to smoke, I would never be a guard because of that reason alone, smoking is a stress releaver, without that some prisoners get too stressed, plus isolation is more of a punishment when it means no smoking for x number of days and lastly, if smoking shortens their lives, let it be shortened

 

true.

what robert is talking about is an administrative hearing, like a panel of experts, that offer their "alleged" expert opinions. The US considers a peer any US citizen, which is a political 'status' despite the countless other ways to determine status. They hang onto the old brit peerage custom, hence they can stack a jury with experts on their own behalf which are also US citizens to meet the test and of course they never bring any vasoline.

 

So somebody found a way to turn this thread into an argument?
Al-righty then!

 

Margot2,

Thank you for an extremely informative article.

Re: the above selected quote, I am quite surprised, amazed actually, at the $9 per hour pay rate and absence of job benefits offered by CCA. In case you don't already know; a rookie New York City Correction Officer's compensation rate is the same as the City police. They start off at $43,000 per year, plus uniform allowance, plus 28 vacation days, plus unlimited sick leave, plus subsidized health insurance, plus numerous other benefits. That pay rate gradually increases to $94,000 after 5-1/2 years.

The question that comes immediately to mind is has there ever been an attempt to unionize CCA employees?

I would be interested in hearing from you. My name is Mike Kessler, my eMail address is tango4@optonline.net

 

You're welcome.......

 

For Profit Prisons are horrible.

 

Why don't you just have trials done by judges then? I've dealt with some judges and, folklore notwithstanding, it seems that not too many rabidly unfairly-minded people take up the profession, which does seem logical.

 

Trump has changed his mind about prison reform.

 

Another thread people should read:
Prisoners killed by guards in Florida prisons

 

Typically Judge held trials produce better results.

 

I always thought that I would want a judge trial if I was innocent and a jury trial if guilty.

 

Probably the right move. Notice Judge Arpaio had a Judge trial.Get ready for him to explain why he never was guilty.