Myanmar ethnic cleansing half a million Muslim.. why is everybody quiet ??

As far as I know, Dogen, the founder of Soto Zen never apologized for murder.

I see Zen as rather a neutral way, neither advocating for specially acting good or evil. Just a tool to augment your mind.

 

"Do not kill"

The Ten Major Precepts

The ten major precepts are: (1) do not kill, (2) do not steal, (3) do not engage in improper sexual conduct, (4) do not lie, (5) do not deal in intoxicants, (6) do not criticize others, (7) do not praise self and slander others, (do not be stingy with the dharma or property ,(9) do not give way to anger, (10) do not disparage the Three Treasures.

On the first precept, Dogen Zenji comments in Kyojukaimon,“By not killing life, the seeds of the Buddha are nurtured, and one is enabled to succeed the Buddha’s life of wisdom. Do not kill life.”

In order to nurture the seeds to actualize Buddha, we should strive not to kill. In the same way, the other nine major precepts all show the virtue of the true reality of all beings.

Zen and the precepts are one

The Bodhisattva precepts we receive in the Soto Zen tradition are also called, Zen-kai (Zen precepts). This means that our zazen and the precepts are one. In our zazen practice, we put our entire being on the ground of true reality of all beings instead of the picture of the world that is a creation of our minds. By striving to keep the precepts in our daily lives, we strive to live being guided by our zazen.

http://global.sotozen-net.or.jp/pdf/dharma-eye/de13/de13_01.htm

 

Islam is nothing but a plague of pirates. They are the Jesuits army because the Christians got soft. Alla is the scorpion who stings the son (Jesus). This is why you have Muslims killing Christians. They all made up by the same people, the Jesuits who are the Venetians who are the Phoenicians (<< where we get the word Phony from) who are the Persians who are Iranians. You also have the Islamic Jesuits the Sabbateans (nice little mix huh). All people in power in all places in all corporations, educations, medical etc etc all blood lines lead to Iran, they are all the same families ruling all. They realize they could be tracked so started changing their names. But we know who they are. Basically the devils people. People who worship death cruelty rape, murder and total material power. They have given Islam the go ahead to have fun. Check out Pallavicini (Italian/Persian) see the alla in that name. it means closet to Alla. These people are the makers of artificial systems to cause war and suffering. But Rome is falling once again . The Pope resigned in 2013 and said the papacy is over. the people are no longer protected. Basically means statute law is no longer valid and common law stands. The police will stand down so the people will have to look after the people again. Governments are void because they no longer govern the people they are corporately owned entities enforcing their unlawful criminal will on the people through the police (peace officers?). There is no Government. Oh and killing in the name of good for good so that good can flourish is righteous and right.

 

Whether he knows any personally or not doesn't really matter. He can still red the headlines.

 

Bangladesh is the home for moosleems.

Welcome home muzzies !!

 

You would be fun to talk to over a beer.

I'd buy.

 

That's a Protestant version of The Big Ten.

However the original Hebrew says --

1 - Have no gods above YHVH.

2 - Bow down to no graven idols.

3 - Do not mention YHVH's name.

4 - Do not work on the 7th day (Saturday in our Norse calendar).

5 - Obey and support your parents.

6 - Do not murder.

7 - Do not swap your wives.

8 - Do not steal.

9 - Do not lie.

10 - Do not desire anything of your neighbor's.

 

"... the art of swordsmanship distinguishes between the sword that kills and the sword that gives life. The one that is used by a technician cannot go any further than killing.... The case is altogether different with the one who is compelled to lift the sword. For it is really not he but the sword itself that does the killing. He had no desire to harm anybody, but the enemy appears and makes himself a victim. It is though the sword automatically performs its function of justice, which is the function of mercy…. the swordsman turns into an artist of the first grade, engaged in producing a work of genuine originality."

D.T. Suzuki

http://www.darkzen.org/Articles/zenholy.htm

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Daisetsu Teitaro Suzuki (鈴木 大拙 貞太郎 Suzuki Daisetsu Teitarō; he rendered his name "Daisetz" in 1894;[1] 18 October 1870 – 12 July 1966[2]) was a Japanese author of books and essays on Buddhism, Zen (Chan) and Shin that were instrumental in spreading interest in both Zen and Shin (and Far Eastern philosophy in general) to the West. Suzuki was also a prolific translator of Chinese, Japanese, and Sanskrit literature. Suzuki spent several lengthy stretches teaching or lecturing at Western universities, and devoted many years to a professorship at Ōtani University, a Japanese Buddhist school.

He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1963

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._T._Suzuki

I think Buddhism in general is amoral. It distinguishes between skillful and unskillful means, not good or evil actions.

 

The teaching of the Buddha are quite clear. The Zen precepts are quite clear. What certain Zen monks may, or may not have done or said, during Japans period of aggression in the 30s and 40s is irrelevant to Buddhism, or Zen.

 

About Zen, yes, It tend to be amoral. It's not totally amoral, but it tend to. Zen buddhist tend to think that zen meditation is the way of inner peace, and that the more people would reach inner peace, the more outer peace would appear but the center of soto zen is zazen, zen meditation, to focus on the present instant. That kind of action is neither bad or good, it's just neutral, and so not immoral but amoral. Zen spirit is very present in a lot of martial arts because zen able to be more present to the moment of now and so be more efficient and reactive. The relationship of buddhism and violence is complexe. I heard about warrior monk in tibet before the chinese invasion without knowing much more about.
Buddhism is not fond of martyr spirit. Every life is precious including yours, so you have all the right to defend yourself. Furthermore, buddhism globaly consider that being a good buddhist is too being a good citizen. What's the limit between the good citizen and the good soldiers ? It's sometime small.

You can never speak of generality in buddhism because buddhist don't even share the same texts. You can more speak of one christianism, one judaism or one islam, because there is only one bible, only one torah and only one quran.

If you consider only Nembutsu, Zen and Nichiren buddhism, both all originated from Japan, the three have very radically different philosophies, and they're all from the same country, and there is many more different form of buddhism. They all share a common ancestry and so have still common points, but the diversity is its biggest richness and weakness.

 

I would never describe Buddhism of any type as clear. I find it entirely opaque and I think it is the rare Westerner who can understand the teachings of a man from a totally alien culture speaking in a dead language two thousand + years ago.

And I would wager that all of the Zen practitioners alive today trace their lineage through one of those Zen monks.

 

Buddhist priviledge heart to heart exchange. Many buddhist consider there is three prove to a teaching :
_ The textual one, if the teaching is based on a text and not just the phantasies of one guy.
_ The doctrinal one, if the teachign is logical and not against reason.
_ The factual one, the most noble of the three : the proof by the results of the teaching.

Most people are more attracted of what some people exalt thanks to buddhism, or by saying one of those relative changing in a good way thanks to buddhism.

The core of the teachings I know are rather simple : practice, study and change yourself.

 

My understanding is that, according to the Buddhists, there is no self to change.

 

You find it opaque because you know nothing about it, or it's lineage. And that's obvious.

 

Buddhism is all mind. Samsara is mind, nirvana is mind. If you hear a teaching on no self, your mind is hearing it, your ego is hearing it, only practice can change the way your mind understands it.

 

Well, of course. That is what being opaque means.

But if it is opaque to me, it is not for lack of trying. I went for years pretending that I understood it, and making knowledgeable sounds about it because I knew all the right words. But finally I had to admit that pretending to understand was pretty lame. So I gave up.

And what, I wonder, would be the point of that? Chop wood, carry water. It is all the same.

 

You can chop wood, and carry water, and you can chop wood, and carry water. Very different.

Did you have a teacher?

 

Why is "everyone" so quiet about the plight of the Rohinga? Probably because they are Muslims.

 

Indeed. I don't know how Google News aggragates its stories, but what I can see right now in the Top Stories section is all about Trump. No Jews Trump - No news. And all those headlines talk about Trump in a negative sense even though American economy is in good shape despite hurricanes and North Korea crisis.

But I guess it's easily understood if you look at it from the point of view of journalists. Trump is in America and there is plenty of information about him that is easy to find. And if you don't want to search for it, you can just make it up. But information from Myanmar on the other hand is not so easy to find, and journalists know so little about it, they don't even know what to make up.

 

I can't express myself for every buddhist. The ideologies are numerous.
In the buddhism I'm in (Nichiren), the principle is about changing yourself. Shortly, we try to change ourselve to make emerge the buddha state present in every human being and present at every moment of there life, for that, we base ourselves on prayer/meditation by reciting a mantra (Nam Myo ho renge kyo), studying the writtings of Nichiren (a monk of the 12th century, and having faith in the wonderfull law (or buddhic law).

Faith emerge from experience, the law have to been tested in our own live so we encouraged to challenge ourselve and test our faith in our live.

Among the qualities praised is respect (I know I'm far to be good at that) and empathy.

 

Islam should learn from Buddha

 

There is goodness in a lot of religion, I particulary appreciate people like the Abbot Pierre, Martin Luther King, Francis of Assisa. I think Sikkhism interesting too.
I don't appreciate Islam and hope that many muslims would drop there faith for another one, but I have the impression it would more logical for them to convert to sikhism or christianism. It's "sister" faith. There is a lot of problems in buddhism, especially with monks in the southern Asia. I have the impression there is a deep crisis in buddhism in many regions.

No cult have the monopoly of goodness, however, some basis are too violent, too rotten to enable a truly peacefull religion.

 

I attended the Berkeley Zen Center with Baker Roshi sporadically.

 

Did you meditate?

I ask because I felt like you until I got a teacher, Tibetan, and began meditating daily. Then a lot of it became quite clear. Far from opaque. Buddhism is experiential. It's not something you can learn, you have to experience it. Then you realize how effective it is. The teachings are only means. The end is the experience. In Zen koans are means. You couple them with sitting, and then you began to get an experience.

 

Their blind faith is Europe's occupation's problem.
Most do not want to blend ... they want to rule and convert others