Myanmar Leader Aung San Suu Kyi, Others Detained by Military

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    . There were British Burmese wars since 1824 until 1948 when the Brits finally gave up on Burma. Of course Burma was once a province of British occupied India.

    When did the alleged killing of protesters by the British take place? Of course during WWII Burma was a vital transistion territory for the flow of supplies to China and Indo-China to fight the Japanese.

    I change my mind in that colonialism in Burma did exasperate the situation just as it did in the ME but in diferrent ways.
     
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    You have to go look those killings yourselves. They still commemorate them. So it's not hard to find. As for exasperate the situation. If you look how many universities them colonial power got build in, than it's usually 5 to 10 for your random oppressed country, and around 100 after. All in all, a good show how they drained resources from such countries to benefit themselves and give little to nothing in return. Not to mention how many died in miserabel circumstances. The good ol' days where racism was perfectly fine. "exasperate" doesn't really cut it.
     
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    That area never had any appeal for me. I've traveled relatively little and there are only 2 places left on my bucket list. I spent a week in Yaroslavl, Russia. Ten days split between Beijing and Guangzhou, and a long weekend in Rome. I'd love to travel to New Zealand and Scotland. I used to have a burning desire to go to Ireland but I've been exposed to too many of the Irish who seem seriously biased against the state of Israel. They seem so invested in supporting the Palestinians that they don't try to see the other side in that conflict.
     
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    I'm curious about something. That statement, can you cite ANY justification for it? I mean, point to specific actions where Trump supporters involved the military or actually committed violent actions against polling places or poll workers... you know, the kinds of things a true insurrectionist would engage in? Because I have to tell ya, if it happened I missed it. I saw a LOT of coverage of a rowdy, loud, angry group of Americans that supported Trump and understood that a tremendous amount of evidence of fraud at many levels was gathered and uniformly IGNORED.

    Then, we listen to a hysterical media ominously intoning about 5 dead in the "insurrection, "sedition" or "riots". That was straight-up *********. They sold the impression that thousands of Fascists descended on the Capitol and threatened to take down the government. THINK about how insane that kind of rhetoric is. Not ONE protester fired a weapon. NOT ONE. The single firearm discharge was by a twitchy rent-a-cop posing as a Capitol Police Officer. He killed an Air Force vet of 14 years whose only crime was trying to crawl through a barricade to get further into the building. That's it. I'd like to believe he just wasn't properly trained and in the stress of the moment he made a mistake but she was the ONLY person breaching that control point and the video clearly shows she was holding no weapon. I've heard no apologies extended for ending her life that way. I don't imagine any condolences will be forthcoming.

    But since you seem to genuinely believe what you are being told about that day and those people there, you might want to take a little time and ask yourself, how would YOU behave if you sincerely believed your candidate won because he was tens or even hundreds of thousands of votes in the lead when you went to bed but a bunch of bizarre actions took place overnight and when you got up, that entire deficit had disappeared and the opponent had "won"? How would YOU feel and behave?
    The reason I bother to explain this is that comments like yours -and others, both sides - act as a feedback loop that keeps ramping up anger and hate. We are going to find a way to walk this back or some really bad things might be in our future and NO ONE is going to be better off for it.
     
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    When you visit New Zealand be sure to go to the South Island. It is one of prettiest places on the planet. I've never been to scotland so I can't comment.
     
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    Could be. But you should understand the state of mind of it all that racism was just totally fine. These were colonies and the indigenous were the oppressed. They were slaved around, children included. Only the big massacres probably are what is being remembered. I don't think that some indigenous got killed for petty little reasons, were worthy enough to be registered in any kind of way. Just like it's not documented that they slaughtered some animal...
     
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    I don't think this will help:
     
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    Seems like just an excuse:
     
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    @Space_Time to

    "A police request to a court detailing the accusations against Suu Kyi, 75, said six walkie-talkie radios had been found in a search of her home in the capital Naypyidaw. The radios were imported illegally and used without permission, it sai"

    That's interesting why would six walkie-talkies be such a big deal in Myanmar? I agree with you seems like a poor excuse to press charges
     
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    So far they're not cracking down:
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...or-after-two-killed-in-protests-idUSKBN2AL01A

    Two killed seems meager... However at some point this is really going to boil over


    The more than two weeks of protests had been largely peaceful, unlike previous episodes of opposition during nearly half a century of direct military rule, which ended in 2011.

    Members of ethnic minorities, poets, rappers and transport workers marched on Saturday in various places, but tension escalated quickly in Mandalay where police and soldiers confronted striking shipyard workers.

    Some of the demonstrators fired catapults at police as they played cat and mouse through riverside streets. Police responded with tear gas and gunfire at the protesters, witnesses said.
     
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    With social media I just don't think the coup will last very long:
     
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    Depends what the Army does. In 1988 (?) it gunned down a bunch of people, spent years hunting down the ones they missed and created a government even more totalitaria nthan the one that preceded it. Given what the Army has been doing to the Rohingya and other minorities I don't doubt that at least some of the Generals are prepared to do that again.

    Of course, they know that means sanctions and once again being firmly in the arms of China. Last time they got sick of that and permitted limited democracy as a way to get out of the hole. If the Generals have decided that sanctions and China are an acceptable tradeoff for completely unfettered power then the protesters are likely doomed. The only thing that might save them is soldiers refusing to fire on fellow Burmans. They have certainly shown little compunction murdering other ethnic minorities, so I'm not entirely sold on that outcome.

    There could be some other variables I'm not accounting for, but in the short term I think the best the protestors can hope for is to be beaten & gassed rather than shot. Perhaps there will be divisions in the military, a counter coup, a backdown or some other outcome. I hope so, but from the outside this feels like something that has been thought through.
     
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    They also just gunned down a bunch of people:
     
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    I read about this some weeks ago, and according to that source (which I am unable to re-find) this action taken by the military is prescribed in their constitution for precisely this sort of situation (questionable election results).

    I do wonder however about the 'arrests', and what evidence is being cited as the grounds for those arrests...

    ...and of course the military disconnecting the internet is a very bad sign that what they're doing is not legitimate.
     
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    The Rohingya and other ethic minorities in Myanmar have always been oppressed by the military. Since before 'democracy' and until now,

    Suu Kyi and her party got deposed by this military..

    I don't see why this couldn't make sense to you guys, The Myanmar military are the antagonists and they, even after the new constitution have held great power.

    Don't blame Suu Kyi for what happened to Rohingya and other ethnic minorities, if she would have opposed it publicly the coup would have probably happened sooner
     
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    It was even worse:
     
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    Sort of what I was expecting. Not good.
     
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    Is the coup collapsing:
     
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    Why would authorities do this:
     
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    Shades of Tiananmen Square:
     
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    91 killed in protests by the Myanmar military on Saturday. Over 400 killed since the coup in February. I think we need to say **** the U.N., who are being held up from acting by Russia and China, and send in SF to train and supply freedom fighters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56547381
     

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