Nancy Pelosi: ICE Agents are Voter Suppression

Call me rude if you please, but have you condemned Antifa and BLM violence and rioting?

 

One thing is for sure in all of this.
Illegals are believed to help Democrats.
But these same people largely from very Catholic countries are social conservatives so they would be more likely to vote Republican were it not for the immigration issue. So inviting them in unvetted and in large numbers may turn out not so great for the Dems in the long run.
By the way I lived with a Mexican family for a while in Chicago and they asked me if I liked Canada. I asked them why and they said they wanted to move there because there are too many Mexicans in the US. So they might begin to want to restrict immigration themselves now that they are here.

 

I've condemned anyone who ever used violence to make a political point. I'm a pacifist, always have been. I like my violence in movies and TV only.

 

So you won't specific condem BLM or Antifa by name then?

 

Nope, sorry, I won't pander to your views. Antifa is not an organization, and the BLM protesters are not the ones doing the smashing, burning and looting. Those are mostly unorganized opportunists, young knuckleheads looking for excitement, and opportunists looking to make distracting noises while they snag a new watch or a flat screen or some high end Nikes. BLM is not responsible for the amount of violence youve6been led to believe by right wing sources.

https://www.statesman.com/news/2020...eaths-damage-from-black-lives-matter-protests

I know from personal experience that of you plan a protest event, it won't matter how much you admonish participants to behave civilly, there are always some who will do violence in your name, and you will be blamed.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-28/antifa-boogaloo-extremists-at-us-floyd-protests/12388260

In today's unrest, there are groups like the boogaloo boys, white nationalists, who have been masking up and going to the hot spots, tearing things up and setting things on fire and even shooting people with the intent that groups like BLM will be blamed. Your own posts prove that it's working.

https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/...supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter/

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qj4ky5/white-supremacist-street-gangs-are-going-to-blm-protests

If my statement that I abhor any use of violence for anything other than self defense isn't good enough for you, too freaking bad, not my problem.

 

Nope, it's not good enough. It's a cop out especially to blame some fictional boogieman or white supremacists.

 

You've forced me into snarkiness. Just remember, you started it.

Fictional? Horse pucky. I gave you links from several sources. What is it with righties and their cognitive dissonance bubbles?

Cop out? Even more horse pucky. That was truth, but if you don't recognize truth when you read it, that, too, is not my problem. It's yours. Stupid is incurable, but ignorance in the age of information is a choice. You need better information sources, that would help.

 

People who makes excuses for the rioters or worse ,try to shift blame to imaginary right wing extremists aren't in their right minds.

 

I made zero excuses for the rioters. Apparently reading comprehension is not a thing on the right.

 

Or so you say.

 

Except you tried to blame it on right wing groups like Boogaloo boys or white nationalists.

 

Oh good grief. It's like having a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Please quote me defending any rioters.

 

Like I said, either you can read the linked articles or you can't. Again, not my effing problem.

Epic fail on your part in this entire exchange. The facts are not on your side, the truth is not on your side, so you lash out and turn to inanities and pretend to know the other person's mind.

 

The fact is, it's left wing mobs who are responsible for this violence and the fact is, the democrats are hesitant to condemn it.

In fact Senator Harris said just today the rioting should not stop.

 

Did she use the word "rioting"? If so, please provide a link.

The fact is, you have no way of knowing the political leanings of those doing the violence or looting. The fact is, most have no political agenda, they either just want to make noise smash things, or they want to create the perception that BLM or another liberal group are the ones causing trouble. Just as shown in the links I gave you that you either can't or won't read.

You prefer to call the smashers and burners leftists because you need the left to be the villains in this narrative. It's an attitude that blinds you to the actual facts.

 

She was not urging anyone to riot. She was saying that the protests were "not going to stop."

How did you get "Senator Harris said just today the rioting should not stop" from that video?

Again, in my opinion, you hear and read what you want to hear and see in order to reinforce your belief that the left are the villains. You've allowed yourself to be convinced that there's a boogyman under your bed.

 

Maybe it was because she said they are not going to stop and "they shouldn't".

 

Because 911 is busy and not coming in too many places.

 

Yes, but she wasn't talking about riots, she was talking about marches.

 

Name one. In some cities, if they're understaffed maybe. But for the most part, the 911 system works well.

 

Yeah, well we know at this point that riots and "peaceful protests" are synonymous when it comes out of the mouths of the left.

 

Isn't well working in Portland and the riot cities. You obviously follow some news- but what you follow is the question. You may not realize that CNN, MSNBC and the like simply don't bother to report news that reflects poorly on the left radical politics. When FOX reports on things like this- it shows the videos of what happened, then it shows the way the MSM reported those incidents. The MSM intentionally exaggerates one side, minimizing or ignoring the other. That's not news of course, it propaganda pablum.

People calling for protection from violence- and told they're "too busy"-to respond. More like not willing or being allowed to engage. Nothing to do with being understaffed; it's the result of the problem with officials having the police stand down and observe crime instead of acting- these dem mayors fear sending cops and emergency services into riots for fear more violence will occur, and they will be blamed. The couple in St Louis who stood in their yard with guns tried calling 911 first when the mobs arrived. They didn't have any luck either, and realized they were on their own.

911 is working well in the cities that are managed right and don't accommodate the street mobsters calling themselves protestors. I called 911 last week for help when an elderly neighbor called me having extreme breathing problems. Fire/rescue arrived about a minute after I crossed the street to her house, EMT's within a couple more minutes. That's how it should work- but here, they don't have to worry about their vehicles being blocked or assaulted on the way to a call, which has been the case in Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis and Kenosha. What kind of trash does that? Same kind that burns cars, throws bricks at police trying to control rioters, ransacks department stores, steals a Rolls-Royce or brings a U-Haul to cart away their lootings. The kind that MSM calls "peaceful protestors".

This country has means of recourse for wrong doing, including by police. You don't address what you think is a problem by creating bigger problems. Much of the focus here is "defund police", including ICE agents. These people are not really concerned about Floyd George and the like- they are concerned about themselves, because they ARE criminals, because police presence hinders crime.
Nancy Pelosi and a great many politicians are playing this game out of desperation to gain political advantage, with no concern at all for the public and safety. It's blatantly obvious if you simply look at news reports that present documented facts and let you think for yourself.

 

Clear dog whistle to the terrorist wing of the DNC to keep the violence up once they lose in Nov

 

No, they most certainly are not, but the fact that you and others on the right believe that is part of the problem.