NASA admits that climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit, NOT otherwise!

My comprehension is fine. You were slewing the vast majority of people who foolishly according to you are climate doomsayers into one big category. Doesn't that by definition include the climate scientists who provide the information? Or are you unfamiliar with the logic of set theory?

As for Steve's post, I have a BSc in biochemistry and worked most of my adult life in the plant sciences dept. of a major university.

I understand how scientific data is collected and analysed and I understand statistical analysis. While not perfect by any means, I am able to competently read and understand scientific research.

You?

 

It's not an AOC thing it was a latest estimation of how long we have to reverse course before climate change is unstoppable and it came from the UN panel on climate change or IPCC.

AOC misinterpreted the meaning and the reactionary right has been using it as a trope to try to ridicule and condemn her ever since.

In reality it is probably long past the time when we could take effective action but the IPCC puts out scientifically arbitrary deadlines in the faint hope to shock us into doing SOMETHING.

 

Haha, no, you literally need to re-read the exchange.

Or maybe not. Maybe you understand it's hilarious that people who have zero understanding of what climate scientists are saying, are running around like chicken little... but you just want to bring the argument back to the scientists... because you know... science has never been wrong. All predictions made by climate scientists have always been correct, all the time. We're all gonna die.

 

That's a load of crap. Anyone with a brain can see if that if they read it. We've always known about the change in climate due to long-period changes in orbital position and angle. This is science for children. Time to grow up.

 

Yep, we're all gonna die! The end is nigh! It is too late to repent!

 

Milankovitch cycles

Sooooooo tell me are these orbital variations causing the current climate change?

Aaaaaand you got this from “natural news”. Infowars is more accurate

 

This isn't a rational or scientific argument. It is you resorting to rediculous hyperbole and distraction to try and get around the fact that you, by your own admission do not understand or or are willfully ignoring the science behind climate change.

Yes, I hate to break it to you but you are going to die one day and yes carbon emissions are having a well documented and scientifically observable effect on the Earth's climate and as a civilization we are completely unprepared for the consequenses of these changes.

You can try to dodge these facts all you want with ridicule and diversion and many on this thread will go along with you because it fits the bubble of their worldview - but more and more, people everywhere can see and observe the changes and understand the reality of what the science is saying.

 

Ahhh! More evidence of “red brain thinking”
http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/19...ifferences-between-democrats-and-republicans/
Firing up the old Amygdala are we?

Me? I prefer to use my Insular region - far more satisfying and logical

 

This letter was sent to Nixon in December 1972 by professors upset about the upcoming ice age.

Scare mongering for political and economic profit, it never ends.

 

Climate change is just an easy tool to implement more socialism and one world government.

No thanks. I’ll pass.

 

Hard right turn. I think you're referring to hard left turns. 270 degrees.

Bill Clinton 1995 SOTU Address

"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That’s why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens.

In the budget I will present to you we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan.

We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it."


[Standing ovation by both houses of congress]


The Texas Department of Public Safety data shows that more than 202,000 illegal aliens were booked into local Texas jails for the eight year period ending July 31, 2019. The data doesn’t include DUI charges, but the 202,000 illegal aliens were charged with more than 317,000 criminal offenses including 570 homicide charges, almost 40,000 drug charges, and more than 8,700 sexual assault and sexual offense charges.


The report states, “It simply identifies thousands of crimes that should not have occurred and thousands of victims that should not have been victimized because the perpetrator should not be here.”

 

Im not sure how taking cheap shots will help. One thing blue and red can agree on is that the particulates are not safe to breath. Even if climate change can never be agreed on, polluting our air and contaminating our soil/water is not a good idea. Too bad people are too busy attacking each others political beliefs to have a respectful discussion.

 

If you are not familiar with the alarmism, you should probably familiarize yourself with it. There are claims that we have 12 years and some say as little as 18 months to do something about climate change. Meaning trying to intervene before the temperature rises by 1.5°C.

I'm not sure why this 1.5°C is such a magic number. It rose 1°C from 1900-2000 and there is more plant life, longer life expectancy today.

I don't doubt human activity has an effect on the climate, I simply doubt the claim that the change is going to be catastrophic. If the sea level rises we will just move out of the low-lying areas like we have been doing for thousands of years. The sea level has been rising for 20,000 years.

I don't know if there's anything we can do to stop it. The globe has been warming for 20,000 years.

Carbon dioxide is a green house gas and yes the more we omit the more there is, however plant life filters carbon dioxide and because of the increased level of carbon dioxide plant life has been flourishing.

Higher global temperatures lead to more evaporation not less, thus we have more precipitation. Which leads to more freshwater more Rivers more life.

Unless you can show that rising temperatures does not lead to more evaporation does more precipitation I have a hard time believing the alarmist claims.

As far as the consensus goes who cares? We could probably adapt to a 5-degree change.

 

Well done! Thank you. Searching further on this I located:

 

It's not a sin to be a career thief? A hit man? A child molester? A man who lusts after men?
God destroyed the city of Gomorrah and God determines what is sinful. The homosexuals there lusted after
two innocent angels they wanted to rape. They were blinded.

 

whether or not you're a career thief a hit man or a child molester is based on the things you do and those things would be sins

a man who lusts after anything would be sinful.

God didn't destroy the city of Sodom and Gomorrah over homosexuality he destroyed them over inhospitality. Precisely God determines what's sinful not you. so your interpretation of the events of Sodom and Gomorrah is not relevant.

it was clearly over something more than them being homosexual because God seems to not care that homosexuals live today. Gay people even build gay churches. God does nothing.

 

You misreprent my statements and are making a false accusation about what I said about global warming. Above all I am not now nor have I ever been an alarmist. Before you go off accusing me or any other member here of alarmism you need to proove that any one you make your false schemes accusation about are alarmists. You also need to read my post about global warming before you make any stupid and false accusations.

I have said that there are likely several causes for global warming. I had noted that the earth has gone through many cycles of warming and cooling. I noted that the tilt of earth's axis, sun spot activities, or a variance in the magnetic field could well have contributed to global warming. What I have said that human activity very likely added to global warming to some degree. Instead of accusing me of being an alarmist or falling under the sell of alarmists think about what I have said. The advent of world wide warming for natural recurring reasons may have coincided with industrial revolution. That very likely effected world wide temperatures by adding to warming.

I never said that human activity was the cause orvsole cause. You should have known that before telling me to learn about alarmism.

 

I'm not reading any of your derivative crap if this is how you talk to people. If you can't be civil you don't deserve my attention. Learn how to do that then get back to me with you blather I might give it the time of day.

 

How I talk to people. You accused me of being in with alarmists.
I do not want nor need your time of day if you are going to make false accusations about me. Put me on ignore so you do not respond to any of my posts.

Furthermore you dragged a post of mine from a long time ago topic.
Stay current.

 

I didn't.

I Didn't accuse you of anything.

I won't put you on ignore if you post publicly and I feel like responding I will.

If you don't want me responding to your posts don't make them.

 

It is such a simple religion. One tenet of faith.....become a socialist globalist or die in 12 or 11 years!

 

you can substantiate nothing you just claimed.

 

Get real, no one who is hysterical about it understands the data, which is incompetent to justify a conclusion one way or the other.

 

Good post!

It seems to be a fact of science that the co2 modern civ.is dependent upon that comes from essential energy production has sped up natural cycles of climate change.

And we better hope the effects are not in the doomsday realm. For the world will continue to see economic development as 3rd world nations burn fossil fuels to accomplish that.

It is natural for us to do what we have done in dependence upon fossil fuels. But cancers that kill are also natural.


And we may be like a cancer as population grows and more people consume resources, using fossil fuels for the necessary energy for growth.

Bar technological advance for cheap, clean energy there is catastrophe in our future . We may be ****ed in the long term.