Now NASA HAS ACTUALLY STARTED WORKING ON A WARP DRIVE!!! NO S#!#!!! "Perhaps a Star Trek experience within our lifetime is not such a remote possibility." These are the words of Dr. Harold "Sonny" White, the Advanced Propulsion Theme Lead for the NASA Engineering Directorate. Dr. White and his colleagues don't just believe a real life warp drive is theoretically possible; they've already started the work to create one. Yes. A real warp drive, Scotty. When it comes to space exploration, we are still cavemen. We got to the Moon and sent some badass robot to Mars. We also have those automatic doors that swoosh wide open when you get near them, but that's about it. It's cool, but we are far from being the space civilization we'll need to become to survive for millennia. The Apollo 11 Moon Landing Liveblog The Apollo 11 Moon Landing Liveblog The Apollo 11 Moon Landing Liveblog Apollo 11 Mission Commander Neil Armstrong and Lunar Module Pilot Buzz Aldrin are now on course to Read more Read more With our current propulsion technologies, interstellar flight is impossible. Even with experimental technology, like ion thrusters or a spaceship's aft pooping freaking nuclear explosions, it would require staggering amounts of fuel and mass to get to any nearby star. And worse: it will require decadescenturies, evento get there. The trip will be meaningless for those left behind. Only the ones going forward in search for a new star system would enjoy the result of the colossal effort. It's just not practical. So we need an alternative. One that would allow us to travel extremely fast without breaking the laws of physics. Or as Dr. White puts it: "we want to go, really fast, while observing the 11th commandment: Thou shall not exceed the speed of light." Searching for warp bubbles The answer lies precisely in those laws of physics. Dr. White and other physicists have found loopholes in some mathematical equationsloopholes that indicate that warping the space-time fabric is indeed possible. Working at NASA Eagleworksa skunkworks operation deep at NASA's Johnson Space CenterDr. White's team is trying to find proof of those loopholes. They have "initiated an interferometer test bed that will try to generate and detect a microscopic instance of a little warp bubble" using an instrument called the White-Juday Warp Field Interferometer. It may sound like a small thing now, but the implications of the research huge. In his own words: Although this is just a tiny instance of the phenomena, it will be existence proof for the idea of perturbing space time-a "Chicago pile" moment, as it were. Recall that December of 1942 saw the first demonstration of a controlled nuclear reaction that generated a whopping half watt. This existence proof was followed by the activation of a ~ four megawatt reactor in November of 1943. Existence proof for the practical application of a scientific idea can be a tipping point for technology development. By creating one of these warp bubbles, the spaceship's engine will compress the space ahead and expand the space behind, moving it to another place without actually moving, and carrying none of the adverse effects of other travel methods. According to Dr. White, "by harnessing the physics of cosmic inflation, future spaceships crafted to satisfy the laws of these mathematical equations may actually be able to get somewhere unthinkably fastand without adverse effects." He says that, if everything is confirmed in these practical experiments, we would be able to create an engine that will get us to Alpha Centauri "in two weeks as measured by clocks here on Earth." The time will be the same in the spaceship and on Earth, he claims, and there will not be "tidal forces inside the bubble, no undue issues, and the proper acceleration is zero. When you turn the field on, everybody doesn't go slamming against the bulkhead, which would be a very short and sad trip." The energy problem, solved There was only one problem with all this: where does the energy come from? While we knew that warp drives were theoretically possible, physicists have always argued that they would require a ball of exotic matter the size of Jupiter to power it. Clearly, that was not practical. But thankfully, Dr. White has found a solution that changes the game completely. The Eagleworks team has discovered that the energy requirements are much lower than previously thought. If they optimize the warp bubble thickness and "oscillate its intensity to reduce the stiffness of space time," they would be able to reduce the amount of fuel to manageable amount: instead of a Jupiter-sized ball of exotic matter, you will only need 500 kilograms to "send a 10-meter bubble (32.8 feet) at an effective velocity of 10c." Ten c! That's ten times the speed of light, people (remember, the ship itself would not go faster than the speed of light. But effectively it will seem like it does). That means that we would be able to visit Gliese 581ga planet similar to Earth 20 light years away from our planetin two years. Two years is nothing. It took Magellan three years to circumnavigate around our home planetfrom August 1519 to September 1522. A four year roundtrip to see a planet like Earth is completely doable. And there are even closer destinations where we can send robots or astronauts. This May Very Well Be the First New Earth This May Very Well Be the First New Earth This May Very Well Be the First New Earth You are looking at what could be the fourth planet on the Gliese 581 star system, 20.3 light years Read more Read more The important thing is that there is now a door open to a different kind of exploration. That, like Dr. White says, "perhaps a Star Trek experience within our lifetime is not such a remote possibility." We may be witnessing the very beginning of a new age of space exploration, one that would finally take us from our pale blue dot back to where we belong. LINK....http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-star...rek-warp-drive Look to bottom of the page for this article on NASA's development of an ACTUAL WAR DRIVE!!! AboveAlpha
Well, I had heard about the Alcubierre warp drive a few years ago, but I was under the impression the timeline NASA set for its release was 2100 at the earliest.
Now, here is what I think: I think this is great! Maybe now we can realize my dream of going to these habitable exoplanet systems and finding out which ones are really life giving worlds and which are false readings. I just thought we wouldn't do it publicly because finding little birdies in the sky of some alien world was subversive?
Considering the energy costs required for theoretical warp drives, I always took the theories as a sign that it's not going to happen and not as a sign that it would happen.
My apologies to any Italian American's as I did not notice I forgot to add the letter R into WARP DRIVE. Thus any confusion to a bunch of Italian American's in Outer Space telling E.T.....Get the F@#K OTTA HEYA!! HEY JIMMY!! DID YOU JUST HERE WHAT DIS GREY SKINNED MOOK JUST SAID TO ME!!?? LISTEN UP NOW MY FRIEND!! YOUZ WANNA MAKE A QUICK STOP ON THE DARK SIDE OFDA MOON TO PICKS YOUR'S SELV'S UP SOME OF DAT H3 FOR YOUR FUSION ENGINE'S??? WELL MY FRIEND....YOU AND YOU BUNCH OF GREY SKINNY A$$ CLONED GIRLFRIEND'S ARE GONNA AVE TO PAY FOR PROTECTION YOU SEEZ?? BECAUSE YOUSE NEVA KNOW WHEN YOU MIGHT NEED OUR....ASSISTANCE PERHAPS DEALING WIT DEM UTTOR REPTILIAN OR INSECTOID MOOKS WHO ALSO WANT IN ON DA ACTION!! AboveAlpha - - - Updated - - - Read the article...it would seem the energy requirements are much lower than previously thought. AboveAlpha - - - Updated - - - I was surprised to read about this but I guess they figured out the energy requirements are much lower than previously thought and it is doable. AboveAlpha
Yes, I've heard about this Doo Wop drive...been around since the 50s. The engine turns at 45 RPM and has nice harmonies.
EVERYTIME.....I look at what I typed as far as WAP DRIVE.....I keep thinking of these guy's in Italy as I have to be at Aviano now and then....and they are COMPLETELY STUCK IN 1977!!! They have the baby blue over sized lappeled shirts unbuttoned all the way to their belly button's with about 7 to 9 Gold Chains with one large Gold Cross and one Small Gold Cross and the rest assorted chains....a few rope chains flying by my car saying Ciao! AboveAlpha - - - Updated - - - I have no idea as I just found out about this. AboveAlpha
Who was the guy that said a few years ago that we now have the technology to take ET home? Anyone remember?
It was Ben Rich. Ben Rich is a well-known engineer thought to be one of the top engineers in the country. From 1975 to 1991, he was the Director of Lockheed’s Skunk Works, the division responsible for development of several advanced technological aircraft including the U-2, the SR-17 Blackbird, the F-117 Nighthawk stealth bomber, and the F-22 Raptor. In a recent presentation about the infamous Skunk Works program, Rich made several unusual comments that had many in the audience scratching their heads. During the presentation, Rich hinted on more than one occasion that more, undisclosed, top-secret advanced technologies have been developed since the F-117 was introduced. Of course, Rich could not go into specifics. MUFON Director Jan Harzan, who was in attendance at the presentation, told reporters: “He intimated that there was a lot of other stuff going on that he could not talk about. He ended his talk with a black disk zipping out into outer space, and he ended it with these words: ‘We now have the technology to take ET home.’” Several in attendance believed that Rich’s final comment inferred that aliens had visited Earth, could possibly still be here, and that we possess the technology to take them across the vast expanses of space. From there, the conversation got even stranger. As Rich was leaving the stage, an engineer asked him if he thought it was theoretically possible to travel to the stars. Rich responded: “We found an error in the equations and we now know how to travel to the stars, and it won’t take us a lifetime to do it.” Another engineer promptly asked, “I have a real interest in the propulsion you are talking about that gets us to the stars. Can you tell me how it works?” Rich stopped and looked at him, then asked: “Do you know how ESP works?” The engineer responded: “I don’t know, all points in space and time are connected?” To which Rich replied, “That’s how it works.” Rich then he turned around and walked away. Updates Rich disclosed additional information regarding Skunk Works and the possession of alien technology by the United States government. Below is a more complete transcription of Ben Rich’s speech: “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do. We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. First, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.” AboveAlpha
I hate NASA. Stupid racists. I'm proud of my Italian heritage. EDIT: I know it's just a typo, but it was a funny one.
Well at least I didn't use an O! LOL! LINK...http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...rp-drive-starship-called-enterprise-of-course AboveAlpha
Meh, we'd require a fuel source that's naturally abundant in the universe. We would also need an anti gravity device. Other than that, completely possible. I doubt humans as a species will survive each other long enough to see that day. - - - Updated - - - Electromagnetic propulsion. Completely logical.
I don't think you could keep this kind of discovery under wraps. We can't keep a disgruntled technician from releasing all our top secret diplomatic emails for all the world to see, why do you think we could keep Star Trek being real a secret?
Why would we need anti-gravity? I hope we don't because that's even more impossible than FTL. Einstein's thought experiments proved that, it would be like canceling inertia But yes, if they've found anything on Warp Drive that is great. Consider, the electron was discovered in 1897, just about 110 years ago. By 1930 we were using it in radio and by the 1980s it was dominant in just about everything. We go faster now and there is more motivation to get FTL travel because we know many of its benefits. It could easily be a workable thing much sooner than anyone thinks.
Well, it isn't under wraps, if the engineer is truthful. He spilled the beans. Which he can do, because even when he did it, you and others find it unbelievable. LOL. To hide something, you do it in plain site. It works better than trying to hide it This is the principle involved here with that engineer. Why would he say what he did? And why would other notable men have talked about ET technology? What would be the purpose of disinformation if that is what drives it? Are all of these very bright, trusted men, insane? I think most people will not believe it anyways, so what is the harm? LOL Humans beings are odd critters. They will believe what they want to believe, regardless of fact. This works out well in partisan politics too. Human beings are not that logical, or rational, in practice.
Thanks AA. Personally I think that what he said is very probable, given that other notable men, engineers, military retired and so on have talked about this very thing. As long as the gov't does not make what they say OFFICIAL, people, many people will simply refuse to believe these men. So, its hid in a way, in plain sight. lol The gov't can always say, well, the men who worked on it told you years ago. You just refused to believe them.
You know Physics level math. You should contact Dr. White, and maybe he will show you the math. He's only comfortable talking about it using the math.
Oh, and while we're on the subject of you just hearing about things now there's another thing I wanted to check with you on. Not to take this Discussion off topic, but did you hear that they just discovered a fourth Neutrino? Cosmic mystery deepens with discovery of ultra-high-energy neutrino
I thought I read somewhere that NASA had the mathematics required to theoretically make the Alcubierre Drive "work" but they don't have a way to harness enough energy to make it work. I specifically remember reading that it would take an energy source equal to the mass of planet Jupiter or something to power the thing. Then I believe another scientist said he could make it work using a much smaller energy source, a source the size of a probe or something. Either way I'm glad they are at least looking into it. Although a good chunk of Astrophysicists say going faster than light is impossible and something like this won't work I'm still glad they are at least trying. Who knows they might stumble across some way to actually expand and contract space and make it work. I'd much rather them try for the fanatical ideas rather than just accepting defeat. I would like for them to dump more resources into getting the James Webb telescope up first though and then start trying to build warp drives... But who knows, many discoveries have been made by accident or when somebody tried something completely insane with everyone laughing at them. Unless they figure out a way to go faster than light then space travel is pretty much pointless anyway so they have to keep trying. We're probably never getting humans out of this solar system unless we figure out how to warp so they simply have to keep trying. Hell they got that EM Drive to work somehow even though they have no idea exactly how it works and it isn't supposed to work based on our current laws. That thing could propel us to Alpha Centauri in like 100 years. Sometimes the best discoveries are made when you completely blow off your own rules that say "it can't be done" and keep trying anyway.
Well I can't figure it out and I am no slouch when it comes to this stuff so either this is the Biggest Technological Breakthough in Human History......or.....It is the BIGGEST SCAM IN HUMAN HISTORY!! But the fact that NASA is making everyone involved with this Program sign Non-Disclosure Agreements....well that tells me they have had a major breakthrough and that they really found a LOOP HOLE IN THE MATH!! I hope they have because this could mean some very great developments are on the way! AboveAlpha
A lot of things that get accidentally released....are released on purpose. They are very good at keeping secrets right in PLAIN SIGHT!! Look at the Groom Lake Facility or Area 51. For CRIPES SAKES ANYONE COULD LOOK AT THIS SUPER SECRET U.S. MILITARY TESTING GROUND USING GOOGLE EARTH FOR YEARS!!! Still the USAF just announced it existed. The thing is there are a lot of people who do the Governments work for them as they scoff and make fun of those who talk about UFO's and Highly Advanced U.S. Weapons Systems and Crafts....thus they don't need to attempt to threaten anyone who see's weird and wild things.....as people do it for them!! AboveAlpha
It's not ANI-GRAVITY. If it was possible to remove Gravitational Effect from an Object the Object would stay still while our Planet, Solar System, Galaxy and Universal Space-Time would ZOOM AWAY FROM IT!! A Warp Bubble is possible but I have no idea how they have overcome the Energy Requirements. AboveAlpha
Wouldn't we need a high power output to even make said device work? What power would it run on? I think we would need some new fourm of power conductors that will help us fourm a hyperdrive link in the first place....
