National Firearm Owner's Identification (FOID) Card

Thoughts and opinions...

Is it time for a National Firearm Owner's Identification (FOID) Card: Read Entire Source Article Here

"To achieve this uniformity in American gun laws we would like to propose the idea of a National Firearm Owner's Identification (FOID) card system that would apply to EVERY American citizen from birth."

 

You'd need a constitutional amendment.

And for the record: no.

 

Sorry, but that is simply not true. Illinois has had a similar FOID card law on the books since 1968, and it has withstood constitutional scrutiny.

 

States have police powers (a term of art ) that the fed does not. The fed is restricted to taxation and commerce measures. Like ffls for example.

 

No.

Seems a redundant waste of time when we already have SSI#s. The NRA is the one that has the mythological hangup with a "registry". Screw 'em. They don't represent all gun owners, but they do represent all gun manufacturers.

 

You couldn't use a person's Social Security number because it would cause an identity theft issue especially for private gun sales.

If you read the entire source article one of the main reasons given for a National FOID card system was to give private gun sellers the ability to easily perform background checks just as licensed FFL dealers already do.

 

An amendment is not required as various state ID laws show.

But I don't like the idea.

 

To do it on the federal level? You absolutely would need an amendment. States have different powers than the fed does.

 

Only in your head is that true. The feds, since Heller, have federalized (incorporated) the 2dA. Are you not aware of that? Look up Heller. This is common knowledge, Reality, and nothing arcane like your opinions.

 

What you mean is that the feds have incorporated as against the states the 2nd amendment after McDonald v Chicago.
DC v Heller would of course be a federal case. You can't federalize a federal case o learned member of the brain trust.
That incorporation doesn't stop them from having the police power. Nor would it stop what they're doing from being unconstitutional, any more than the original brown v board case settled anything. It would give them a different argument however.

 

From the article...
(1.) Would create one uniform national background check system, based on a single universal FOID card number system, that could be easily updated by every law enforcement agency and court system in America instantly.

There is already one uniform national background check system that works off your personal information. It would work better if all responsible parties would report people not eligible for firearms though. This FOID system would not solve that problem. I agree with not using the SSI number, but you can use a Driver's license number or other state ID number.

(2.) By assigning EVERY American a FOID card number you would be elimintating the "gun registry" excuse that is frequently used by the gun lobby when any responsible gun reform legislation is introduced, because now every American would be considered a potential gun owner, even if they never own a gun.

If you're not registering the firearms to the person, how is considering every person a firearm owner helpful?

(3.) It would finally close the private gun sale loophole once and for all. Private sellers would now be required to perform background checks on all potential buyers. Those background checks would be fast and free online or through an automated 800 number.

If you're not going to register firearms how will this prevent private sales without a background check. If you want to make a free system that would be great and those people that want to use it could.

(4.) Illegal black market guns would increase in price due to the elimination of the private gun sale background check loophole. Simple supply and demand economics. By eliminating an easy access point for illegal gun purchases (private sellers on gun classified websites for example) you decrease the supply of black market guns, which then drives up the costs on the remaining black market guns that are still in demand. This will in turn knock many low-level street criminals out of the black market because of the increased costs of those black market guns.

Again, if you are not registering firearms how will this slow down black market sales?

(5.) Would greatly simplify the purchasing of firearms at FFL dealers. The buyer either has a valid FOID card or they don't.

This would require the seller to go to a computer and input a number for validation. May stores now have the buyer fill out the form electronically and then send that, so this makes the sellers job no easier.

 

You don't understand incorporation. That's fine. You literally have no idea what this is about.

 

Illinois issues what is essentially a confirmation number (approval number) for each private transfer. You can see how the Illinois private firearm transfer FOID system works through the following link: Private Firearm Transfer Response

 

NO!

NO WHERE IN THE 2ND AMENDMENT DOES IT SAY I NEED AN FOID CARD.

 

Nope. not even a little bit.

 

I think we have enough bureaucracy already.

 

How about we call it a Militia Member ID Card?

 

Sounds like something else for the government to FUBAR.

 

Do gang members get a discount? Wouldn't want to disenfranchise them.

 

I've got an idea!

Transparent clothes!

 

Another reason people are leaving Illinois in droves.

Can't balance a budget, but they can hand out gun cards like the wind.

Hows that helping with Chicago crime, by the way?

 

Armored transparent clothes.

 

They make umbrellas and backpacks already.

 

I'm wondering just how that works.

 

Kevlar!