National Reciprocity Bill Makes its Way to Congress

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by rover77, Mar 4, 2017.

  1. rover77

    rover77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    693
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    Earlier this week, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) introduced Senate Bill 446, the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017, which would allow Americans to conceal carry a firearm across state lines.

    “This bill strengthens both the constitutional right of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and the power of states to implement laws best-suited for the folks who live there,” Cornyn said in a statement obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.

    About time.

    Source: https://bearingarms.com/beth-b/2017/03/04/national-reciprocity-bill-makes-way-congress/
     
    drluggit likes this.
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Without any commen sense requirements, such as liability insurance or mandatory training sessions, Democrats will have no choice but to shoot this down.
     
  3. rover77

    rover77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    693
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm sure they will..but not because of 'common sense' or other code words for controlling the peasants..it will be about dogma
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2013
    Messages:
    93,457
    Likes Received:
    14,675
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You cannot expect States just roll over and let the Federal govt. force them to respect CCW permits from states that irresponsibly give them to anyone and everyone that applies.

    if you want states like NY, California, Mass, Illinois to respect other states CCWs, add a liability insurance requirement and 14 hour training course.
     
  5. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    3,214
    Likes Received:
    1,584
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes just like the federal goverment forces states to let you have 2nd amendment rights.
     
  6. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If states can legally be forced to accept and recognize homosexual marriage, they can also legally be forced to accept and recognized concealed carry permits from other states.
     
  7. rover77

    rover77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    693
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    that's exactly what SCOTUS did with gay marriage...they decided enough states were ok with it , so they mandated it for all.....questionable logic but hey ..a good argument for reciprocity
     
  8. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,711
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Poor choice of example; homosexual marriage itself does not kill people; guns do.
     
  9. rover77

    rover77 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    693
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Gender:
    Male
    sorry..but it is a good example of precedent , and courts tend to follow it
     
  10. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
  11. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've always wanted to walk down 5th avenue with Smith and Wesson.

    It's something to look forward to for sure.
     
    Small Town Guy likes this.
  12. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,711
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
  13. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    30,274
    Likes Received:
    20,261
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    how do you plan on doing that? if we eliminate one gun banner it would be worth it in the increase in freedom? :roflol:
     
    Small Town Guy likes this.
  14. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope. We need to make sure those in homosexual marriages have easier access to firearms to defend themselves.

    This law will go a long way to ensure equality in marriage.
     
  15. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,711
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why would they need guns for those in homosexual marriages since you have already proposed to do away with those types of marriages?
     
  16. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They don't have to be married to be in a relationship of course.
     
  17. Deltaboy

    Deltaboy Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    29
    Trophy Points:
    28
    This is the only way we can stop states like New Jersey from arresting and ruining good people from other states who are just driving through.

    We already got reciprocity for Driver Licence , Marriages and other things so I have no issue with being able to carry in all 50 states.
     
    vman12 likes this.
  18. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Such will not be happening within the united states under any circumstances. It is a physical impossibility to eliminate every single firearm in existence. As such there is no legitimate reason to continue discussing such as if it were even a remote possibility.
     
  19. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,711
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Then I'd suggest you do not respond further to my posts on this thread. :)
     
    DoctorWho likes this.
  20. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just as it is suggested that you refrain from engaging in activity that wastes the time of others who wish to engage in a legitimate debate and discussion.
     
  21. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,711
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It wasn't myself who broached the subject; you should direct your response to that poster. :)
     
  22. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are the one who made the inane statement about eliminating the existence of all firearms. Pray tell how many times have you brought this up, only to be repeatedly reminded that such cannot and will not come to pass?
     
    DoctorWho likes this.
  23. Sampson Simpon

    Sampson Simpon Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2017
    Messages:
    455
    Likes Received:
    206
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    SCOTUS has ruled many times that gun regulations are not unconstitutional, so all those that claim laws are unconstitutional, I suggest you take it up with SCOTUS. Or at least do what the constitution says to do, challenge the law and eventually will go to SCOTUS. That's how it works

    SCOTUS ruled that banning gay marriage was unconstitutional. Also, gay people getting married has no effect on those that oppose, at all. Anybody and everybody walking around with a gun effects other people's lives. As seen by the absurd amount of gun related deaths and victims this country sees

    And if states are sued for not allowing concealed carry from other states, and the courts rule it is unconstitutional, then they will have to abide.

    That's how our government works, as set up by the constitution
     
  24. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    23,895
    Likes Received:
    7,537
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Are you familiar with the particulars of the Caetano ruling?
     
  25. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    SCOTUS didn't say that all regulations are Constitutional. They wrote plainly in Miller, Heller and McDonald describing what the parameters for allowable restrictions were. Gun bans and magazine capacity restrictions are plainly unconstitutional.
     

Share This Page