National Voter Registration Act

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Got my annual card from the state to comply with the subject confirming my name address and voter registration. Don't have to lift a finger to do anything.


    Why is it that Democrat voters seem to have such a difficult time at least according to the Dems/MSM?
     
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    If it were left up to the Democrats there'd be NO voter registration, "Vote early, Vote often".
     
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    I have no problem doing it. That's a good question.
     
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    Registration issues typically come from lack of a valid address (seen in many tribal communities), lack of permanent address, lack of access to transportation to register at the DMV and lack of internet.

    Most of what Democrats are pushing for is automatic registration (even less fingers that you have to “lift”), expanded voting such as early voting or absentee voting, additional drop locations, additional polling locations...

    The strongest democracies (or republics) come from having the most people both informed and represented.
    Only one party fights to prevent that.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn’t that a quote from the red cult leader? Why are you attributing it to Democrats?
     
  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    All the Porch Creek Indians seem to be able to vote here. Don't know that there are more blacks without a permanent addresses than any other group but there are means to accommodate that and it is the VOTERS responsiblity the government has no obligation to coddle them.

    And having the most voters is a canard and does not necessarily lead to the best results when people who have no idea the issues and no idea the candidates throw darts at a ballot and cast it. And that one party, why didn't you just state your claim, wants ALL LEGAL voters to vote is they so desire and ALL LEGAL votes counted. So stop with that canard.
     
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    Poll taxes are illegal and it is absolutely the government’s responsibility to accommodate them especially when it is an irrelevant aspect that is causing them difficulties in registering. This is what is is meant by voter disenfranchisement, small items that impact a very small group of individuals — which is why we need no excuse vote by mail.

    Since y’all want “all LEGAL (in all caps like you have a point to make) votes counted”, why do y’all push gerrymandering, small errors dismissal of ballots, limited voting locations, restrictions on voting methods, limited or no early voting and no automatic registration?

    And just because they don’t vote the way you want them to or are not as informed as you believe they should be doesn’t mean their voice is any less important than your own. If we are using informed as a metric then I would say zero members of the trump cult or believers of QAnon should be allowed to vote.

    Deal?

    That you say you want all LEGAL (caps again) votes to count yet you put the idea that uninformed voters are not the best in a functioning democracy is... slightly hypocritical.

    How about we make voting as easy as possible and teach proper civics along with critical thinking skills in out classrooms as well as promoting our citizens to study what does and doesn’t work in other nations, I know it wouldn’t be a good thing for the new conservative ideology but it would be what is best for American.
     
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    Really? I am all for voter registration, with voter ID.

    Do generalizations much?

    Oh, and btw, do you know which one single state in the Union does absolutely no voter registration and does not require ID to vote?

    Yepp, that would be North Dakota, a RED state.
     
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    First, just a simple point about the electoral mess:
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...error-error-twice-size-difference-candidates/
    Huge numbers of such errors were found and delivered as evidence in court filings where they were promptly dismissed without LOOKING into their veracity at all.
    I won't waste time arguing over the source of the info or any other nonsense from the Left. It does no good. What I hope you folks WILL grasp, and soon, is that tens of millions of us believe this election was stolen and will not believe otherwise until this evidence is disseminated and evaluated in the open.
    The vote is the LAST bond between Americans and when sufficient numbers of us realize we cannot trust the tallies, we will begin looking to throw off such government. The most peaceful way forward is being discussed now. Texas is already moving on a vote for secession. Multiple other states whose citizens want the Constitution to be the standard by which our laws are passed and enforced, will soon follow Texas. This election is a turning point. It will NOT be accepted quietly and the millions whose voice was cheated will not just accept the chains and "try next time". There will be no "next time" until we have trust in the process again.
    Any attempt to codify and permanently establish this means of fraud will be overturned or we'll be moving on to allow you Marxist/Progressive folks to govern YOURSELVES as you see fit so long as you make no attempt to use force against the rest of us.
    Here's a little blast from our past that you'd do well to brush up on:

    When a Long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, Pursuing Invariably the Same Object, Evinces a Design to Reduce Them [I.E. the People] Under Absolute Despotism, It Is Their Right, It Is Their Duty, to Throw off Such Government, and to Provide New Guards for Their Future Security." - Declaration of Independence, July 4th, 1776 The…

    THIS^ is what you fine folks refer to as "INSURRECTION". The Brits did, likewise. Any oppressive government would see us the same way. Fortunately, we were born in a nation that understands that freedom is our BIRTHRIGHT and we will not be crushed under anyone's heels.
    If these words anger you, you might want to wonder why that is so.
     
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    I'd add one small caveat to your list and then I'd be on board with a deal. EVERY ballot submitted would have an unhackable biometric signature. Say, a thumbprint? Along with that marker, a 10-year prison sentence without the possibility of parole for ANYONE who is found defrauding a vote. How'd that be?
     
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    Is this where wack-a-mole starts?
    Let's look at poll taxes

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    Note the "privilege of franchise". And there were exemptions and if you were over 45 you did not have to pay. It is no more difficult to register to vote than going to the store and even those who can't get to the store because they are infirmed have means to get registered if they aren't already. But what we MUST ensure we have is PROPER and SECURE registration

    Since you are not from the South I will take you have resorted to mocking me and Southerners. You non-sequiturs noted. In my state we all vote at the same places on the same days. If your ballot is rejected for a small error it tells you right then and there and can cast another one and registration is automatically ASKED when you get a drivers licenses else go to the courthouse or your satellite location and do so it's your responsibility. OH and we had no claims of any of the things you mentioned, we had our results before midnight and we were done with. How did all those states with all those things you so like do? I hear New York just settled it's last election last week.

    I said nothing about which way they voted, try again. Or do you just believe those who voted on the left are less informed? And no where did I say NOT ALLOWED so STOP :police::police::police:.

    Here's the deal, I say something and you respond to what I say. Is that a deal?

    I prefer LEGAL votes by informed voters, how about you?

    What is "as possible". Easiest would be we text in our vote, you want that easy. How do you balance "easiest" with "highest integrity"? What's your metric. And I would love for EVERYONE to received a proper education in civics and it certainly isn't coming out of our public schools by what I see. How about teaching proper history and the Constitution?
     
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    Everything else in your post has already been refuted. But I just want to point out the quoted portion above. Texas, nor any other state, has the ability or authority to secede. They can hold all the votes they want, a state in the union they will remain. This was settled in Texas v white.
     
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    We played along for months while lies after lies were kicked out of court — even your own judges said there was no evidence. Let me bold this so you can comprehend this:

    WE NO LONGER CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE

    The right and its coconspirators can push their conspiracy, their propaganda, their anti-science, anti-fact, anti-logic agenda while wrapping themselves in cult and treason flags because, and let me repeat this again:

    WE NO LONGER CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE

    They don’t anger me, I eagerly await it. But just like all of the other claims that all of this is right around the corner it will not come to fruition.

    And yes, We the people have the ability to do what redress our grievances if our voices are not heard, we were allowed to vote. Our voices were heard. Just because you didn’t get your way is not a justification for sedition.

    Btw, if you think Texas which only voted for trump at 52.1% (barely the majority) — ignoring that they can’t legally do it — are going to lead the way for a mass succession from the US... it isn’t going to happen.

    All I can tell you is watch, and prepare to to be disappointed.
     
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    Thumbprints are hackable. But I am completely open for a national voter database that tracks and verifies every legal voter through whatever means are secure as long as they can vote from their couch if they so choose.

    We almost have the technology to vote remotely securely, we should invest in that.

    Ramp up the penalties to whatever you want.
     
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    We disagree what proper is — I agree with secure however. But arbitrary rules and requirements are not proper.

    Do tell, where am I from then? And how am I mocking you?

    The lines for voting in my very conservative district in my very conservative city in my very conservative SOUTHERN state was upwards of 4 hours because they closed so many voting locations. It was even worse in areas that served the less fortunate areas of the state.

    I prefer all US citizens being allowed to vote easily and securely from the comfort of their home. I prefer we educate our youth to a level that exceeds other nations.

    We need a complete revamp of our education system. We are failing. I would argue that if one person that wants to legally vote is not allowed then it is the same as one person committing fraud. They need to be balanced equally.
     
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    Proper, you properly register with proper ID and properly maintain your voter registration, then you go to your polling place and properly show your ID and receive a proper ballot. You properly fill out your ballot and submit it to the tally machine and you are properly done.

    If you are referring to the poll tax as the local newspaper was reporting it was not arbitrary at all and it was a key funding source for the schools.

    I don't know you hide it but you referred to Southerners as "ya'll" which means you are not one of them. Did I err, are you a Southener?

    Who is they and in what counties? Do you have early voting? Vote by mail? Do you need as many?


    Then fix all the problems all these states who implimented what you supported had in trying to count their votes and determine which ones were legal and which were not and having to the unconstitutionally shift their rules to do so. We do it quite simply, quite clearly and had no problems or people complaining they could not vote.
     
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    Honestly did you care about what we believe before 2020?
     
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    Texas vs White was about bonds in the 1800's and has nothing to do with Texas succeeding from the union. The only state that legally can is Texas but honestly I don't see that happening and if they tried it would end up being blocked somehow.
     
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    I did before 2016, I actually voted for two Republicans in that election. Never again. After 2020 there is no point in even attempting good faith discussions or negotiation with the Republicans as the party stands today.

    So to answer your question directly, yes.
     
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    Nope. The court in Texas v white specifically rules a state can not secede from the union.

    https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White
     
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    I could not bring myself to vote for Mitt Romney. I almost became a independent in 2012.

    Then came Hillary and I never considered voting for a Democrat again.

    I still care what you think. That's why I'm here.
     
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    we have a problem with purging valid voters from the voter rolls right before an election

    you did not have to do anything, that is not a purge
     
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    And near total control of all media does not lend credence or proof to your accusations.
    We don't give damn one what you believe or care about. But I see the path is set and there will be no turning.
     
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    I typically vote against the person I voted for in the prior election.
    Voted for Obama then against him
    Voted for trump then against him (I agree Hillary was not an option)

    I wish we had a viable third party
     
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    All the media huh?
    Question, what is the largest media organization? What is the largest broadcast network?

    Both are conservative... don’t let facts get in your way though.
     

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