Native Ways

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    Let's imagine a Europe governed by Lenapes in a hypothetical scenario, what might that Europe look like?
    Hundreds of Lenape land in Portugal or Britain and come giving corn, potatoes, chocolate, and everything else we should be thankful for, and just helped themselves to European lands and properties, and the Kings, Queens, Armies and even the Pope couldn't do a thing about it.
    Then what if these Lenape attracted Lakota and Cheyenne, who come, and wipe out Brits, French and Spanish calling Europeans Australians, because they were looking for Australia...
    To a point were Europe is called something else...
    Let's say the Native Ways wipe out Europe before meeting Asia and Africa, who are like... Okay, chill, we'll trade with you.
    So the Australians of New Lenape are in the third world in a prosperous country; shoved off into the mountains or deserts of Iberia, living on Australian Reservations with poverty while Lakotas are in power, have statues of themselves everywhere, are on currency, law and religion, with things like a market where Stonehenge Used to be, and the Vatican is home to some Chief who wiped out the Pope with a bloody axe...

    Wouldn't that be like what Europe did to those people?

    So, IDK, this is a thread to talk about the ways of the people who didn't want to be Americans because they had their own things going on.
     
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    They didn't matter then and they do not matter today, much like the current american underclass which now increasingly includes whites.

    The thing is, it's not really about "white", but rather about a perceptual reality. As John Trudell often pointed out, this disease, this way of looking at all life, and the planet, rolled out over the tribes of Europe first. We are all the decedents of tribes and a spiritual perceptual reality of the universe and the creator. That memory has been wiped out of white consciousness pretty much, their enslavement having happened long before the disease rolled out across the rest of the planet via colonialism and proselytizing.

    That perceptual reality was replaced with a male dominator god perceptual reality which gave rise to the notion that this male dominator god gave mankind, only the “chosen ones” mind you, dominion over the natural world, the planet, anything they “discovered”, and any other human beings they could manage to whip into consent. So you bring that into a technological perceptual reality era where we are now, and we’ve all been enslaved to/by an economic system that has no other purpose than to continue the colonialization of all human beings, further redistributing and concentrating wealth into the pockets of fewer and fewer, much of that wealth coming from the natural world that was in place long before the humans who manipulate it into their own hands. In the same manner the system mines uranium or coal or gold, it also mines the energy, spirit, and soul of the human being to run these authoritarian systems that enslave us all. In essence, they mine the being part of the human being. Think about your own experiences in the corporate world if you have them.

    And so all of this racism, classism, sexism, religion, et.al. arises from the system’s need to keep the masses quibbling amongst themselves. The same applies to the american political system; it is designed to prevent any gathering of the masses against the aristocracy. It’s an illusion, this democracy and liberty. You have ostensibly “two” political parties who very comfortably don’t really have to do anything at all except point at the “other” party and with your consent present them as evil and scary; disconnected from what? Well, they’re not “real” americans like you and they don’t bow as deeply to the male dominator god as you do. Again, go back and look at Bacon’s Rebellion and the aftermath. The power structure learned that lesson very well. The system also learned very well from the 60-70s / the Viet Nam War / Civil Rights era, the last large scale questioning of our authoritarian system. The beast is bigger and stronger now.

    It’s useful for all of us to go back and study our tribal ancestry, go dig into how they got “civilized”, invariably, it was anything but civil, that’s the great lie, it was very brutal stuff, they had to be brutalized into “accepting” the proper perceptual reality, and thus consent. And so now that the colonialism has become globalism, the power structure no longer has any national affiliations at all. That’s for YOU to hold onto, again, because it will feed into the unsubstantial people’s fighting amongst themselves so the system doesn’t have to, and so that the unsubstantial people will line up to go to war and die in endless wars over resources and turf someone else sits on that the system covets. It’s really no different than the manner in which any street gang goes after turf.

    We have been with our own consent and participation indoctrinated into submission, consent, and acceptance of this authoritarian system that runs on our energy and labor just as surely as we’ve all been indoctrinated into hating and distrusting the only possible allies we have in this authoritarian system.

    If you come to be deemed as in the way of "progress" which means the aristocracy's extraction, redistribution and concentrston of wealth, you are up for "removal".
     
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    I don't think Europeans would like to be called Natives or Australian and live in poverty while a bunch of Lakota's run the show.
     
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    So even though Federal America seems to be running the show, why not think more of Lakota, and less on Britain or EU or Australia?
    Bring big business and opportunity to a reservation Donald Trump if you want America First.
     
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    Cool, carry on, whether I asserted that or not.
     
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    You missed the point, at no point did you speak of Native Ways, just how they didn't matter.

    I'll carry on, because I am free, like buffalo.
     
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    The reservation system, for the most part is destructive. When 85% of people are affected by alcoholism, 1 in four children are born will disabilities due to the mother drinking while pregnant, and 80% not working...man..not a good culture to carry on. How can businesses sustain in a market like that?

    Frankly oil and gas jobs are strong in SD. But they protest the pipelines and the jobs instead of taking advantage of the opportunities. People from all over the country was headed for N.D and S.D for the high paying oil jobs...and the people on the reservation were trying to block those jobs.

    Not all Indians are in poverty. The tribes in OK thrive and because of that, they have the resources to retain their culture and language. The difference between OK nations and the Sioux Nation is that Oklahoma nations believes in capitalism and promoting positive opportunities for their citizens and the Sioux protest jobs.
     
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    Sure, you go boy.
     
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    Colonizers must always demean the colonized. The guy starts a thread for fairly obvious reasons. As for "capitalism", that's why they had to be subjugated, they were in the way, just like folks who put water before resource/wealth extraction, redistribution and concentration.
     
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    Do you want strong tribes with strong self sufficient citizens? Or not! Maybe whining about my Pioneer ancesters are enough to sufficiently make you feel good. But it does nothing to solve problems.
     

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