Navy confirms UFO video

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  1. ArmySoldier

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    We know that some users make a lot of outrageous claims...which is why some of us want to see sources to back them up. Since we hardly ever do...it's why these questions are asked to some users. Does that bother you?
     
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    Your cheesy personal attack shows your mentality trumper. And it was a discussion with a friend over 20 years ago. Don't be inane.
     
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    Well, it just seems to me that many conversations are NOT recorded. So it seems like a near-impossible goal to set for proof.
     
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    20 years ago? Does this friend really exist or is this an article you may have read?
     
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    I've seen published evidence that ETs have been around for a minimum of 3 centuries. The recent discovery of the Nazca Mummies, thru C14 dating, stretches that time period back to around 800 AD. I personally believe they've been around for several millennia, though I can't prove it. I also suspect they've been crucial players in several important & dramatic turning points in the advancement of humankind as a species. I hope they'll continue that practice in the near future. I also believe they've made themselves known to some human settlements in the ancient past. It makes sense they would do so again if they felt safe from us in doing so. But we now tend to fight or kill anything we are unfamiliar with. They've grown beyond that primitive stage, & are waiting for us to do so.
     
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    I have read about those claims .

    But there is so much bs in the ufo community .

    I prefer to only pay attention to what is documunted recently Like the faber account given who he is.
     
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    You and I view this differently because there is no explanation, Ill wait till they have one or we see them upfront and personal. I dont see superior beings flying all around us all the time without making any contact whatsoever
     
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    There is a lot of BS in the UFO community. There is documented evidence from reliable, credible sources as well. Like everything else on the internet, you have to fact check sources and confirm through multiple accounts.

    It takes work but it is possible to separate the wheat from the chaff.
     
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    You seem to assume that they think like humans or that any superior being wants to interact with us. Clearly they are not interested in of formally introducing themselves.

    Yet they reveal themselves to us in our skies. Our military combat instruments verify their existence. Along with our eyes. They jam targeting radar.
    We dont need to meet them face to face in order to know an intelligence is connected to these craft.

    The watch has a maker. So why demand another variable? Is it so unbelievable as to set the bar unnecessarily high ? Especially given the knowledge they dont seem interested in doing a face to face. Ha ha
     
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    If you pay attention over time it is possible to discern a person who tends to lie.
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    This member unlike some seems to be more serious and honest than others.

    For me this is a consideration when determining credibility.

    IMHO of course.

    Changing a person's mind about this issue is rare given how we dont like ever possibly being wrong on any formed belief. But some people are more flexible, not being driven by a strong self image, a big ego.

    Perhaps the rarity of people changing their minds even with evidence presented is why this fellow was met with skepticism? Ha ha
     
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    Im not setting the bar too high, im setting the bar at realism, all my life Ive been waiting to see one and been told they are out there and I got a strong feeling that id bet on ill be long dead before anyone IF anyone ever sees one.

    Yes I think theres life out there somewhere and I always have, I just dont think life forms so far advanced that they can what we cant even understand are watching us for some reason without dropping in and saying Hi
     
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    If those superior beings aren't aggressive (which they aren't), & don't want to contend with human aggression, then it's perfectly understandable why they'd avoid open contact.
     
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    Would we ever say hi to the ants of an ant hill.

    We may be too violent with never ending wars and we have been this way for all of our history.
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    There are several reasons that are plausible that would explain why they have not been on cnn.

    Also you are assuming these beings think as humans do.

    Having a face to face meeting in order to accept that high tech craft exist is a bit incoherent given we have evidence that intelligent beings are involved.

    If you see a watch at a distance but not the watch maker , demanding to meet the maker in order to believe he exists is deserting logic, rationality and reason.

    It may puzzle you as to why they have not made personal contact but for mr I cannot understand why such advanced beings would want to meet such creatures as ourselves .Given our history. Ha ha.Hell there are plenty of humans that I would never want to meet!
     
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    I don't know that anyone really understands what these things are or how they work. They may be unmanned drones or the may actually be vehicles. Another strange thing is that there seems to be so many different types and varieties.

    I don't know if you have ever heard of the Ariel incident or not but it has been very well documented and researched both by the BBC (including one of it's own most hardened war correspondents who started out as a skeptic) and Harvard researcher John Mack. It is probably one of the most moving encounters I am aware of. I still get a little emotional watching interviews with the children. The have been affected by what they saw to this day. Emily Trim came from a family of Canadian missionaries working for the Salvation Army in Zimbabwe and was just a small child when the event happened. She still to this day cannot talk about it without tearing up.

    At any rate, In spring of 1994, over 60 children at Ariel middle school in the suburbs of Harare, Zimbabwe witnessed a saucer shaped craft land just out side the boundary of their school yard and were then approached by two non-human creatures who attempted to communicate with them. This is some footage of the original BBC interviews followed by documentation from Dr. Mack's work with the children:





    Look into those children's eyes and tell me they are lying or making this up!

    There is going to be a film coming out later next year called "The Ariel Phenomenon":

     
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    Oh yeah, I know about that incident. Amazing.

    Gordon Cooper revealed that a classic flying saucer landed on the airbase he was at right in front of a military film crew who filmed the craft. Cooper reported it to the pentagon and was told to develop the film and to secure it until a courier arrived to get it.

    Cooper held it up and looked at it and saw the saucer. I think this hsppened in 1957.


    Ufos are the greatest mystery and absolutely exist. And the technology involved is far beyond our own.Yet observers have been ridiculed for decades. Turns out the idiots have been those who denied reality even when the observers were legitimate and many were military trained observers like fighter pilots .

    For some of us there can never be enough evidence that would change their minds. You see the same thing with religion. An affected intellect.

    We see something similar when it comes to political partisans. Our bio computers crash and stop working coherently.

    I am curious as to why we are being watched. And how many species are here?

    The Iranian event that involved a fighter pilot who when he tried to engage the craft experienced a shut down of his electronics. They came bsck on once he backed off.

    Just glad these beings don't seem to want to conquer us. Or destroy us .
     
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    Good post. I especially like & agree with the sentiment of your last sentence. Please keep in mind, ETs are peaceful & respectful & have no bad intentions. In fact, I feel they are waiting for us to mature enough to meet with them in complete ease, with no malicious intent, to help us learn to join them in a massive interstellar community involving many new & different worlds. We are stopping that from happening by our warlike behaviors & distrust. We are the problem. Not them.
     
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    It's okay. They don't have to share their technology with us. We can continue to do things the old fashioned way. :alientwo:
     
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    Some of you guys are way into this more than I am, I merely gave my opinion, im certainly no expert and I certainly DONT KNOW anything about it like most other people. Some people believe in ghosts, some dont, some believe in God some dont.
    Some people believe in something because someone else does or the read something that sounded compelling, others wont believe it till the see it.

    In the end its to each their own :)
     
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    Maybe, I really dont know a dang thing about them to be honest :) I dont know what they look like, what they eat, what they fly or how they make babies or even if they do. Ill just wait till I know for sure :)
     
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    Do you say that because it is easier to stay limited to Earth or near Earth, than to learn to stop war & accept aliens as equals?
     
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    I think we might be alone in the universe.
     
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    No, I say that because I don't think for a minute that when aliens are proven to exist that they'll usher in a new wave of far future technology. In other words, they won't share.
     
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    That would imply, there's a lot of wasted worlds out there. Generally speaking, nature seems to thrive under the same rules everywhere. Science teaches us that what nature is like here, it's likely to resemble elsewhere. One generation ago, we knew of no planets around any star other than our Sun. Today, we know every star has planets around it. That means that there are probably from 5-10, or more, planets per star everywhere we look. We know from our telescopes that there are hundreds of billions of stars in our galaxy alone. And now we know there are a minimum of 28 billion galaxies out there too. I submit, the idea of us being alone, is mathematically impossible.
     
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    As long as we continue our aggressive, warlike behaviors, I agree. But it's to their advantage as much as ours, to open new cultural & trade relationships with new worlds with new things to offer. We're one of those new worlds.
     

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