Nazi = Communist?

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  1. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    "progressives" love to spin the definitions of fascism and communism but in practical terms, there is no difference. Both are dictatorial, hate democracy, love big government. Both believe a small select group should rule the people. Both have killed millions of their own people.

    History shows there is no practical difference except one.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...liberal_bubble_got_charlottesville_wrong.html

    To understand the small difference between the two ultimate big-government parties let’s go to a little old Lithuanian woman who had survived being conquered by both Nazis and Communists. She said that she preferred Nazis because if you did what they told you to do, they’d leave you alone, while Communists wanted you to think the way they thought;.....

    So, to all the "progressives", can you explain how life under communism ("progressivism") is better than life under fascism?
     
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    Guno Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it is obvious you are poorly educated to not know the difference, get some education. People aren't going to waste their time explaining simple historical concepts to you
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this is what we call ideological and historical revisionism
     
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    katzgar Banned

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    Nazi equals white nationalist equals Confederate apologist
     
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    Your post is ignorant
     
  6. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    LOL, you cannot explain why "progressivism" is better than fascism.

    But you are correct, the answer is simple - communism, fascism, "progressivism", are all the same in practice. Its that simple.
     
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    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    Then enlighten us. Tell us how "progressivism" / communism is better than fascism. The entire 20th century shows that in practical terms, there is no difference. Can you explain that simple fact?
     
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    There are multiple forms of communism, but all seek the end goal of ending the state and ending the class system. Marx, the most influential communist thinker, thought that there needed to be temporary dictatorship of the proletariat in order to reach this goal. Some of his anarcho-communist critics disagreed. So no, I wouldn't say that communists categorically "love big government". Nazis and other fascists, on the other hand, were appalled at the notion of ever doing away with the state. The state was sacred. Hence why the Nazis imprisoned communists.

    I wouldn't want to live under either system, but I definitely have more to talk about with anarcho-communists than with fascists.
     
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    Llewellyn Moss Well-Known Member

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    To much to chew at once. This is why you will get detractors. I will read the link.
     
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    Progressives dont want to murder their political opponents.
     
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    Ah see, it is allowable to actually post a bit of the article.


    "Since the founding of the Soviet Union, modern leftists have been trying to portray Communism as a great thing. We know they’ve succeeded because calling anyone a Nazi is viewed as a heinous charge while calling someone a Communist is no big deal and can even be considered a compliment by some leftists.

    Walter Duranty, a NYT reporter, got a Pulitzer prize for lying about the mass starvation in the Ukraine in the 1930s. Now that we know the truth, neither the Pulitzer committee nor the NYT want to retract the award.

    Leftists are so eager to support Communism that they say that a reporter who covered up Communism’s mass murder of millions of people deserves an award for journalism.

    On the other hand, leftists and the MSM are so eager to condemn Nazis that they call people who aren’t Nazis, Nazis just so they can condemn Nazis.

    You’d never guess that leftists were big fans of Nazis when the Nazis and the Communists invaded Poland. The designated enemy of the people in 1940 was Great Britain, then fighting alone against a triumphant Third Reich. "



    You’d probably never believe that the only reason that leftists don’t like Nazis is because the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union. Prior to that Nazis, leftists, and Communists were all best buds.

    It’s not surprising, since Nazis aren’t the political opposite of Communists; they are just two movements on the Left of the political spectrum. Leftists pretend that Nazis and Communists are opposites so that they can make Communists look good.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...liberal_bubble_got_charlottesville_wrong.html



    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._got_charlottesville_wrong.html#ixzz4syiNRImr
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    the reason there are 2 words is because they are unique things and no I am not responsible for your education. Your education is on you, I figure you are an adult know.
     
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    And that's the point. In reality, they are the same. You can mince words and play with definitions and create all kinds of labels such as anarcho-communist, but in their real world implementation they are all brutal, murderous systems.

    That's like saying "I have more to talk about with the man who starves children to death that the man who runs the gas chamber". Why would you want to talk to either?
     
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    Wanting to be right about those I criticize is not "playing with definitions." It is basic intellectual honesty. Nationalist systems have been brutal and murderous, but I don't see you holding nationalists to the same standard here.

    Because my interest in debate and discussion means that I will encounter people with whom I disagree, sometimes vehemently. I get along better with the anarcho-communists because at least we can agree that authoritarianism is bad.
     
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    Really? Dallas, July 2016, BLM member shoots 7 cops. Never heard of antifa? Havent heard of the shooting or GOP congressmen at a baseball practice? Maybe you never heard of Dr. Tom Curry, Texas A&M prof, who says its ok to kill white people?

    "progressives", like all totalitarians, will murder their opponents when they get enough power to get away with it. Democide is so much easier than respecting people.
     
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    If you displayed an ability or desire to understand political concepts maybe someone would be able to explain things to you. First of all go away for a while and learn something. Communism is not progressivism and progressivism is not a political or economic system therefore you are asking someone to explain to you why 2 equals 4 when it isn't equal and never will be.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WOW, conservatism does not teach that nor advocate for it.
     
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    Conservatives want to overturn the Civil Rights Act.

    they want it to be legal to discriminate against racial, religious, gender minorities in business, education, housing and employment.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abe Lincoln was a white nationalist.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    True, except the part about Curry is a complete misrepresentation.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no he was not, as white people are not a "nation".

    Abe was merely a classical 19th century racist.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Cool story. And?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not true. We never advocate that at all. EVER

    As to discrimination, that is mans nature. I don't mean white men, all men discriminate. Even you discriminate And i will fight off a person trying to prevent you from discriminating. It is a right.

    Take the case of my gun. What right do you have to my gun? Then my car. Do you have any right to use my car?

    How then can you have the right to use my home? If I rent it, i don't forfeit my rights to my own property. Democrats advocate for that though.
     
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    Oh, gosh, when he lived, most were whites. But you are not persuadable. I have a lot more time doing this than you have had.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Enough for me you agree. Thanks.
     

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