'Nazi Grandma' sent to jail again for Holocaust denial

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  1. Grau

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    Thanks for your very sensible speculation:

    Based on the topic at hand, Frau Haverbeck's incarceration, Germany remains
    The very fact that standard Holocaust® dogma is so fragile that it requires laws prohibiting open discussion & honest examination speaks volumes as to its inherent fraudulence.

    Any undertaking so immense as the systematic extermination of millions of people would have required a detailed, extensive & widely circulated plan like Israel's Plan Dalet[1].
    However, to this day, such a plan has never been found:


    “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”
    - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190.


    "What became known in high Nazi circles as the Fuehrer Order on the Final Solution apparently was never committed to paper -- at least no copy of it has yet been unearthed in the captured Nazi documents. " William Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (New York: Fawcett Crest, 1960), p.1256.




    Additional proof that standard Holocaust dogma is fraudulent is the absence of any mention of "extermination", etc in intercepted German radio transcripts:

    “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
    https://www.scribd.com/document/282721687/Breaking-the-Spell-the-Holocaust-Myth-Reality

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communi-cations between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


    The Holocaust® Industry began by promulgating frauds like "Human Skin Lampshades", "Human Fat Soap", shrunken heads & other grisly props to shock gullible individuals into believing specious falsehoods just as The Holocaust® Industry continues to promulgate frauds like altered photos & innumerable false claims:

    “...21 Facts...”
    http://cigpapers.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/holocaust-or-holohoax-21-amazing-facts/

    15. Fake Photographic And Film Holocaust Evidence And The Ever Changing Numbers:

    EXCERPT "The first time fake evidence was used was during the Nuremberg Trials. This however became an industry in its own right after 1945, with large rewards paid to investigators for “finding” Holocaust evidence. At the time a lot of this evidence was very cutting-edge, but under modern scrutiny it simply doesn’t stand up.

    Modern forensic techniques have exposed a lot of “Holocaust” photographic evidence as faked.

    New systems of examining photographs and film have exposed large amounts of it as totally fake, other evidence has been exposed as coming from completely different sources e.g. The Russian Gulags.

    As evidence has emerged discrediting large parts, if not all, of the alleged Holocaust narrative the jews have been forced to constantly change the numbers in their claims. They have, however, constantly stuck to an overall total of 6 million jewish deaths, even though this makes no mathematical sense as the component numbers are revised downwards. This hasn’t led to a partial refund of the damages paid to Israel by Germany based on the 6 million figure." CONTINUED


    It there were any truth to standard Holocaust® dogma it would not require the censorship & State persecution of those who expose its fraudulence.






    [1] "ISRAEL'S PLAN DALET"; THE GREEN LIGHT FOR ZIONISM'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE"

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels...estine/5326140
    EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.”CONTINUED
     
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    Let me reiterate that while I'm for the right to believe and speak whatever you want I must strongly disagree with the idea that the holocaust was a hoax. There are just too many people who claim to be apart of it (either by being victims, the nazi gaurds, or the liberators) to say that it never happened.
     
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    Only a few centuries ago,
    believed that the earth was the center of our solar system.
    Additionally,
    believe that the earth is flat [1].
    Therefore, I feel that there are many reasons to question a belief that is held by
    While I dislike the term "hoax", what has recently been termed as "The Holocaust®" is replete with fraudulent, self-serving & profit driven distortions of what really happened in Germany's WW 2 Internment Camps.

    According to a recent ADL funded study, billions of people don't believe in the standard Holocaust® dogma [2].
    According to this study, there are more people who have never heard of the Holocaust® or don't believe the "6 Million myth"

    Also, accounts that refute the Holocaust® myth are not only censored and repressed[3] but considered a crime to express in many different "democracies".

    Please consider the following account that is among the countless ones that will NEVER make it to your eyes via Major Media:


    To: The MEDIA
    
Re: CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVORS
    Dear Sir / Madam,
    My name is Alexander McClelland I am an Australian veteran of WWII, a TPI
(Totally and Permanently Incapacitated) and a survivor of a Concentration
Camp.
    Aged 19 I volunteered for the AIF and fought as a Bren Gunner in 2/1
Infantry Btn in North Africa, Greece and Crete where I was wounded and
captured by German forces. I spent the rest of the war as a POW but due
to my many escape attempts I was finally put into the TEREZIN
Concentration Camp close to the Theresienstadt Ghetto in Czechoslovakia.

    I have recorded my experiences in an autobiographical book entitled : 
'The Answer- Justice.' In 1965 I was featured in an award winning but 
historically inaccurate Australian television documentary on 
Theresienstadt called "Where Death Wears A Smile."

    I don't receive my TPI Pension because of the heavy wounds I received in 
the battle action on Crete. I get my TPI Pension because of the inhumane
treatment I received in the Concentration Camp.

    It is a mistake to 
believe that the Germans had enough spare manpower to staff and run the 
concentration camps. The Germans only guarded the outer perimeter of the 
camps, we Prisoners hardly saw German soldiers, so it was not the SS or
German guards that beat me up daily.

    No, the daily beatings that left me totally incapacitated, came from two 
fellow Prisoners called KAPOS.

    Kapos (or Camp Police) had extra privileges, such as their own room and 
they also had power, For example the Power to say who got to visit the 
Camp Sick Bay or the Camp Brothel, and - because of the absence of the 
very disciplined Germans - these Kapos even had the Power over Life &
 Death.

    The two Kapos that beat me daily, using a heavy wooden baton they called 
'Herr Doktor' (The Doctor) were both fellow Prisoners, both were Jewish,
 one from Hungary and the other was, I believe, a Ukrainian. I was often a 
witness when they dragged other hapless prisoners from their cells onto 
the 'Appelplatz' and beat them to death with 'The Doctor'.

    So whenever I meet a ' Camp survivor' now, I look him deeply in the eyes 
to see what sort of a 'survivor' they are; were they really a Prisoner 
just like me, or whether they were one of the many 'Privileged' ones who 
survived the war being more inhumane to other Prisoners than the Germans 
ever were.

    As a matter of fact, it was a German SS Soldier who saved my life after
the Kapos, who after beating me sent me outside the camp on a work
 detail, with a dangerously poisoned leg. The SS Soldier walking by saw my 
mates helping me, came over and then gave me his medical kit.

    I now look deeply into the eyes of the 'survivors,' because I know that
not all Concentration Camp survivors were innocent victims. I know that a lot of the Prisoners were brutal and inhumane criminals.

    The world has never been told the whole truth about what life in the Camps was like.
 All we ever hear or read in the media is, how bad the German guards were and how badly they treated their Prisoners.

    I was in more than 8 POW Camps and a Concentration Camp, so who would 
know the truth? Me or the Media!

    Sincerely,

    Alexander McClelland
    
PO Box 887 Toronto NSW 2283
    
Australia

    The account by Alexander McClelland is very similar to dozens of similar stories I heard while living in Germany & traveling throughout Europe.

    Unfortunately, millions of people are either deep;y indoctrinated by Holocaust® dogma, or afraid to express their disbelief due to social pressure and fear of being labeled an "anti Semite".

    The fact that Holocaust® dogma cannot stand up to honest scrutiny & in open discussion makes it consistent with similar profit & fame driven frauds.
    The Truth welcomes honest scrutiny & in open discussion while a lie must hide under the darkness of censorship & repressive laws.
    If Holocaust® dogma is truthful, why are Holocausitans so fearful of open & honest discussion. What is there to hide?


    Thanks



    [1] “Welcome to the Flat Earth Society.” (*)
    http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/cms/



    [2]“Did the Holocaust Exist?”
    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at...ary-number-of-people-say-no-or-not-even-aware
    EXCERPT “Half of the people in the world have never heard of the Holocaust, ADL found.
    And in the other half – the ones who have at least heard of the Holocaust and the truth that Adolf Hitler ordered the deaths of 6 million Jews – a third of this group simply did not believe the Holocaust happened. To this group, the Holocaust is a lie, a myth, a hoax, a conspiracy by those with a political or ideological agenda.”CONTINUED


    [3] “The fastest way to get expelled from a British university is by (*)saying you are looking at chemical evidence for how Zyklon was used in World War II, with a discussion of how delousing technology (*)functioned in the German World War II labour camps”
    (*)—Nicholas Kollerstrom
     
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    I really do despair. Humanity seems to govern itself by madness rather than reason.
     
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    Some "democracy". :steamed:
     
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    There's a difference between "too many people believe" vs "too many people claimed to have experienced." If a bunch of people with nothing to gain say that they've seen or done something and their stories line up then its reasonable to assume that something happen. That's how detective work works.

    There are also people who never seen a telephone or claim that they are a myth.

    That in it of itself doesn't prove anything. It only proves that other countries don't value free speech as we do.

    That still doesn't disprove the holocaust. Many events in history gets generalized and distorted to an extent. Not all nazis were heartless and cruel and the fact still remained that those prisoners worked for the nazis.

    Who said they were fearful? If some don't like to talk about it I can understand as many of our soldiers don't like to talk about how many of the enemy they've killed.

    I'm on that forum. I'm "Luke 22:35-38" and I defend the round earth position as well as defend the Bible from people who believe that it teaches a flat earth


    Maybe its because its a event in a European nation/continent. I'm willing to bet that there's a staggering amount of people who have never heard of the American civil war or the Mexican war. Also there's a staggering amount of people who believe that the lunar landing is fake.


    Britain also don't allow people to carry guns so something like this isn't all that surprising.
     
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    Britain's absurd & repressive gun laws have nothing to do with the scholastic stigma attached to exposing Holocaustian "Gas chamber" frauds with the following facts:

    EXCERPT: "1) There are NO autopsy reports of any Nazi gassing victims from any western doctors.

    2) There are NO photographs that are even alleged to be of corpses of Nazi gassing victims from any German concentration camps.

    3) There are NO German documents to identify any gassing victims. For those who think otherwise, let the USHMM, or the ADL, or anyone else provide such a document.

    4) “Although survivors recalled that smoke and flame emanated continually from the crematoria chimneys and was visible for miles, the photography we examined gave no positive proof of this.“

    5) There are NO German documents that speak of gassing. For those who think otherwise, let the USHMM, or the ADL, or anyone else provide such a document.

    6) Some of Wiesel's exact words in Night, paperback edition (Bantam Books, 1960) page 78 are:
    “The choice was in our hands. For once we could decide our fate for ourselves. We could both stay in the hospital, where I could, thanks to my doctor, get him [the father] entered as a patient or nurse. Or else we could follow the others. ‘Well, what shall we do, father?’ He was silent. ‘Let's be evacuated with the others,’ I told him.”

    7) Rudolf Hoess, former commandant of Auschwitz, who appeared as a "witness" at Nuremberg was definitely "tortured" and his Jewish torturer Bernard Clarke even admitted it later in the book LEGIONS OF DEATH by Rupert Butler, pages 236-38.

    8) The numbers of “holocaust survivors” are enormous—even today. The numbers are well into the hundreds of thousands even sixty years after the war. In 2003 an Israeli demographer, Sergio Della Pergola, stated in an official Israeli report that there were 1.092,000 Jewish holocaust survivors alive in the world in 2003.
    The so-called "survivors"--and there were 1,092,000 of them still alive in 2003 according to Dr. Sergio DellaPergola-

    There are NO autopsy reports of Nazi gassing victims. There are NO autopsy reports that show even one body found anywhere was of someone killed with poison gas by the Nazis or Germans.

    Many thousands of bodies were found in German concentration camps by the end of the war, (they clearly had NOT all gone up in smoke at all) and at least a thousand were autopsied—but, none of the autopsies indicated poisoning by any substance.

    This simple fact should already undermine anyone's belief that the “holocaust” story is supported by “overwhelming evidence.”CONTINUED[1]


    I don't doubt that Communists, homosexuals, Jews, the Roma etc were persecuted but after living among, researching (in German) & listening to the experiences of former Camp Inmates and former German soldiers, I simply don't believe the standard Holocaust®* dogma.


    Thanks for maintaining a refreshing civility while discussing such a volatile issue.


    * I use the "®" symbol to indicate the alleged European Holocaust® of the 1940s as opposed to the dozens of other "Holocausts" that are claimed to have happened[2]


    [1] “NAZI GASSINGS NEVER HAPPENED”
    http://www.nazigassings.com


    [2] "NY Times reports in 1906 that Russia's "6,000,00 jews" facing a final "solution" of "systematic and murderous extermination"
    http://exposing-the-holocaust-hoax-...01/ny-times-reports-in-1906-that-russias.html
     
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    For Ursula Haverbeck all this doesn't matter one iota.
    She is put in jail for having violated a German law... a law that forbids contradicting the official holocaust narrative.
    Even you, dear Grau, would have to go to jail, lived you in Germany. All your fantastic arguments and proofs will not be considered.
    You would have to pass GO and proceed straight to jail!!:salute:
    See, how very clever all that has been arranged? No lawyer would be able to get you off the hook!

    You are lucky to live in the United States where you can still speak your mind without getting hung.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, Jazz, I agree that anyone who openly contradicts the Holocaust® narrative in Germany goes to jail regardless of the veracity of their arguments. In reality, the need for State censorship only speaks to the fragility of the Holocaust® dogma in that it cannot survive honest examination & open discussion.

    The Truth doesn't need repressive Censorship laws however a Lie cannot exist without them.

    I suspect that it has been that way since 1946 during the Allied occupation which would make it appear that Germany remains, in a sense, still Occupied.

    I only hope that some day all of the European "democracies" that have such repressive laws will enjoy the same free speech that currently exists in the US however as long as the Holocaust® Industry has such overwhelming wealth & influence, such a Godsend seems unlikely in the near future.


    Thanks
     
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    time for a reminder:


    Same old debunked crap in the same old paper bags.

    Can't argue with faith, stupidity or hate, nor the the intransigent ignorance they spawn.
     
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    "TYPHUSCAUST"

    “These Holocaust deniers are very slick people. They justify everything they say with facts and figures.
    - Steven Some / Newark Star-Ledger, Oct. 23, 1996 (p. 15




    You mean "time for a desperate regurgitation" of your tiresome & factually flawed & unsourced Hasbara Propaganda


    Neither you nor any other brainwashed Holocaustians have debunked any of the hard facts that refute the standard Holocaust® narrative.

    And

    Posting & re-Posting the same old canned "crap" from your worn out "Idiot's Guide to Holocaust® Hucksterism" ain't gonna do it.

    The primary killer in the German Internment Camps was typhus due to the destruction of supply lines to the German Camps.
    Typhus not only kills but causes the following psychiatric complications to those who come in contact with it:


    “Typhoid fever”
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/typhoid-fever/basics/complications/con-20028553
    EXCERPT “Jul 11, 2015 ... Typhoid fever — Comprehensive overview covers symptoms, ... Psychiatric problems, such as delirium, hallucinations and paranoid psychosis."CONTINUED


    Even after the British took control of Bergen-Belsen 14,000 Inmates continued to die of typhus:


    “After Daybreak: The Liberation of Bergen-Belsen, 1945”
    http://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-8052-4232-4

    EXCERPT “Why did 14,000 inmates of the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp die after its liberation and under British control? Shephard, creator of the Emmy-winning documentary series The World at War , casts a critical but judicious eye on British management of the camp. Drawing on letters and diaries by British military and medical personnel, he paints a textured picture of the camp's desperate state, rife with starvation and typhus.”CONTINUED


    Meanwhile, the British intercepted German Radio transmissions, those Radio transmissions not only make no mention of "Exterminations" but actually, refer to German attempts to reduce Inmate deaths:

    EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort – but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system.

    The revealed information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.” CONTINUED[1]


    Please consider the following reality that probably accounts for mass indoctrination by the factually flawed Holocaustian narrative:

    "It is easier to believe a lie one has heard a hundred times than a truth one has never heard before." --American sociologist Robert S. Lynd




    [1] “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
    https://www.scribd.com/document/282721687/Breaking-the-Spell-the-Holocaust-Myth-Reality
     
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    Well that's a big fat lie.
    But Grau that's all you've done and continue to do. You have no thoughts of your own but rather just other people's detritus
     
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    Your obsessive & puerile focus on me & infantile opinions in no way relate to my previous Post or the topic at hand.

    Since you are only capable of childish rhetoric, fraudulent claims & a history of personal insults....

    ....Welcome to my very brief "Ignore" list.
     
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    My response does.
    Another lie
    Oh thank god for that. It means you won't reply with nonsense by simply not responding at all.
    So you've just made me a little happier.
     
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    What I particularly love about deniers is their fantastic logic.

    There was disease therefore no gas chambers.
    There was starvation therefore no "final solution".

    Using such superior logic, these denizens of the beergarden can construct their own fantasy narrative.

    [video]https://youtu.be/kHmYIo7bcUw?t=10[/video]
     
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    when one exists in an intellectual wasteland, detritus is often all that is available.
     
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    Ursula has company in Canada...

    ...“there are reasonable grounds for believing that the following offences have been committed: “Wilful Promotion of Hatred contrary to Section 319(2) of the Criminal Code.”


    Read interesting story here:
    http://www.radicalpress.com/?page_id=3864
     
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    Your sarcasm & ignorant, personal slurs ("these denizens of the beergarden") only serve to underscore the desperation of brainwashed Holocaustians to promulgate their profit driven & slanderous lies.


    No, there were no gas chambers therefore there were no gas chambers:

    “Was there Really a Holocaust?”
    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm

    “The Problems of Mass Gassing”
    EXCERPT “In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
    Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held Poland.

    Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust Center states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5, "No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."

    The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross, English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or did not believe in rumors of gassings. 

This brings up the following questions:

    • 1). Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.

    • 2). There have been thousands of investigations of alleged Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single person gassed—AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000 MASS GASSINGS!

    • 3). Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also died from typhus.

    • 4). The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED

    AND

    EXCERPT “In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatsoever of ‘gas chambers’.

    The original 1946 edition did not even talk of ‘extermination’ or ‘death camps’ but after the emotional impact of the Nuremberg trials the Red Cross felt compelled to introduce into the expanded 1948 Report several, very cursory references to ‘death camps’ (Vol. 1 p. 641) and ‘extermination camps’ (Vol. I p. 645).


    However, no means of ‘extermination’ is indicated.

    In all its 1,600 pages the three-volume Report does not even mention such a thing as a 
‘gas chamber’.

    It acknowledges that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but’ its complete silence
 on the subject of ’gassings’ is ample refutation of the ‘Holocaust’ legend.”CONTINUED[1]


    It's quite revealing that throughout the 27 pages of this thread, not one brainwashed Holocaustian has shown how or where ANY Western Dr. has performed ANY autopsy in which "Gassing" was found to be the cause of death.
    There were "delousing chambers" to prevent the spread of typhus but no evidence of mass gassings of Camp Inmates


    EXCERPT " There are NO autopsy reports of Nazi gassing victims. There are NO autopsy reports that show even one body found anywhere was of someone killed with poison gas by the Nazis or Germans.

    Many thousands of bodies were found in German concentration camps by the end of the war, (they clearly had NOT all gone up in smoke at all) and at least a thousand were autopsied—but, none of the autopsies indicated poisoning by any substance.

    This simple fact should already undermine anyone's belief that the “holocaust” story is supported by “overwhelming evidence.” CONTINUED [2]


    [1] “RED CROSS EXPOSES “JUDAIC” HOLOCAUST HOAX: INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS (IRC) DOCUMENT CONFIRMS 271 THOUSAND NOT 6 MILLION DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS”

    http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-judaic-holocaust-hoax/


    [2] “NAZI GASSINGS NEVER HAPPENED”
    http://www.nazigassings.com/
     
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    Apparently the insidious Holocaust® Industry is becoming increasing concerned as their myths are being so effectively shattered due to that troublesome "Free Speech" that poses its greatest threat.

    Since their specious & profit driven lies cannot withstand open discussion & honest examination their agenda has been precisely as totalitarian in nature as any Totalitarian Regime millions have died to eliminate.

    It's becoming increasingly obvious that today's true enemies of Freedom are right under our noses & thriving today in spite of historic efforts to eradicate them decades ago and thousands of miles away.


    Thanks for helping to show who poses the greatest threat to our few remaining Freedoms.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its always the same with you.

    the same tired old evidence.
    You keep pulling out the Red Cross report that CLEARLY indicates the extent to which the IRC was DENIED access to both facilities and prisoners. You keep regurgitating nazi apologetics as gospel only wanting to believe that because they didn't see the gassing nor the conditions in the death camps they didn't exist. this is simple intellectual dishonesty.

    ON and ON about the red cross report without you apparently ever having read it or the history of the Red Cross efforts during the war.

    Instead you simply rinse and repeat the same old garbage as if it was of some revelatory substance instead of being nothing more than a truly inept demonstration of denialist comprehension and logic.

    FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME ON THIS VERY SUBJECT. Maybe one of these days you'll deign to actually educate yourself to the facts instead of the fantasies and desires of denialist nonsense.




    https://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/documents/misc/history-holocauste-020205.htm

     
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    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is we comrade? She is in Germany and is sentenced under German law. Poking your nose in another country's business? As to her platform she is preaching to the choir, reasonable people have seen the evidence.
     
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    Only 11 month? Shame ... should be life time jailed this lady and I give a crap how old she is. Nazi scum should be gassed at best!
     
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    I hope that you're not serious because that would make you just as bad as the Nazi's
     
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    The last words are lesser serious ... but I met some neo-Nazis who told that Hitler did not gas enough. Well, this scum should be gassed. As this Christian book tells: Eye for Eye, tooth for tooth or so!

    But the first part is full serious! this lady is so deep Nazi, such scum must be jailed and as told, I give a crap on how old someone is!
     

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