Nazi murderers of Jews still walking around USA

I can't figure you out, Snake. One minute you are on the side of us Jews and fighting our enemies. A moment later you are on the side of the muslims and fighting for their side of things. Which side are you on? You can love Jews and muslims I imagine; but you have to know we two groups hate each other to our very core.

 

What kind of bull is that? You have never seen an electron but you believe atoms exist. Either you believe millions were killed or you don't.

 

I'm at a loss for words. Snakestretcher?

You said it better than I could.

For those of you who didn't click the links, THIS is what passes for Holocaust Denialist "Science":



Good going, Allegoricalfact. With friends like you, Denialists DON'T need enemies.

 

It has been my observation that Snake hates Jews with a passion, and then suddenly he is spanking one of the nazi loons for being Holocaust deniers. Check post #679. You can't make this stuff up. Maybe his computer got hacked?

 

I don't interact with Snake very much, so I can't really answer that well, but it is possible that he's completely against Israeli politics per se, while still believing that the Holocaust did in fact occur. Neither position is mutually exclusive of the other.

For my part, I don't think I agree 100% with the positions of any of the people on my friends list, and some are closer to 50% - but their commonality is the ability to lucidly and intelligently articulate their positions, even if I don't agree with them, and Snake is often able to do just that. I don't believe Snake and I agree on a lot either, but he's done a heckuva good job against the Denialist Delusionists. And he's got class.

Or look at it this way: He agrees with you on one position. Just roll with it while it lasts.

 

#684 marked for review.

My bold.

Show proof of this claim or withdraw and apologise. I will be insisting and you will not find any wriggle room .

 

Possibly he is not on any side but just saying things as he knows the truth to the best of his ability. Some of us do that.

If I remember correctly Snakestretcher lost family members in the holocaust.

 

I'm actually very easy to figure out; I absolutely condemn 100% anyone who stupidly claims the Holocaust was a hoax because, like you, I had family in Poland who suffered not only from the Nazis but some who were also exiled from their homes in eastern Poland to Soviet Russia as slave labourers-my mother and grandmother. They were Catholics.
Now, let me say this very clearly; I condemn the government in Israel for their actions against the Palestinians. I do not condemn them because they are Jews and would be equally condemnatory of any government, anywhere, of any religious or ethnic persuasion, for behaving in the same way. Injustice is injustice whoever is guilty of it.
Naturally there are those who immediately jump on any criticism of Israel and its administration as anti-Semitism. This is a cheap shot which I'm quite capable of dealing with.

On the other hand if I'm supportive of an oppressed people-the Palestinians-I get accused of being a terror-enabler, Muzzie (sic) lover, you name it. Essentially I'm on the side of fairness and truth. My family motto on my avatar reads "sto pro veritas"; I stand for truth.
I hope that clears things up for you.

 

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Wow just wow!

 

I am invoking rule number 10, provide evidence, retract your statement by admitting that it's you opinion, or cease making these ludicrous claims

 

And in the world of holocaust deniers, A) All Jews are lying about the holocaust and they are lying because they are Jews, and B) If one persons testimony is proven to be exaggerated or false then all persons testimony regarding the holocaust must be equally exaggerated and/or false. How can we argue with that? It's science.

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Yes, ethnic cleansing is what the Arabs did to the entire Middle Eastern Jewish population, and genocide would be what Mohammad did to the Jewish Banu tribes in Arabia.

 

Mass murder does not have a statute of limitations! They should not be allowed to dying in the comforts of their own beds surrounded by loved ones when they themselves stripped mothers from children, husbands from wives, and brothers and sisters and to see to it that they would die in the most cold and calculating way imaginable, these people are devoid of any humanity and they should die alone in dark cold cells; their crimes a testament to mans hate for man.

 

This is a proven lie and is now being reported as blatant spam, all figures between 1938 and 1949 are based on the 1938 estimates and the newest estimate for 1949 is based on the most recent census of the time and shows a nearly 5.5 million drop in the world Jewish population, your lies and those of the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) peddlers that you cite have been exposed for exactly what they are, the World Almanac Gambit is a well known denialist ploy that in actuality proves our claims regarding Jewish population drops.

Deceit & Misrepresentation
The Techniques of Holocaust Denial
The World Almanac Gambit

Editor: Ken McVay
Authors: Annie Alpert, John Morris In August of 1997, an author identifying himself as Bob Djurdjevic, the founder of "Truth in Media," included the following paragraph in a letter to The Arizona Republic:

"The World Almanac for 1940 gives the world's Jewish population as 15,319,359. The World Almanac for 1949 puts the number of Jews in the world at 15,713,638.

"If the World Almanac figures are correct, "the world's Jewish population did not decrease in the war decade, but showed a small increase."

The 1949 figure offered by Mr. Djurdjevic was, as you're about to see, an outright lie, as was the conclusion drawn.

When citing the World Almanac as a source for data "proving" that there was no Jewish population decline during World War II, Holocaust deniers are simply propagating one of the standard denier myths that has recurred regularly for more than a decade.

The problem has nothing whatever to do with rates of population increase or anything like that. It has to do with how frequently the World Almanac's sources had access to fresh estimates of religious populations.

Whoever first started propagating World Almanac figures neglected to mention that all figures before
1949 were from 1938 estimates. Since the year of etimate is given at the top of the chart it is difficult to believe that the originator did not intentionally mean to decieve by negelecting this key piece of information.

I have posted the following correction several times:

The University of Alberta library has the World Almanac issues for the pertinent period for 1941, 1944, 1947, 1948, and 1949. The figures listed for total world Jewish population are as follows:


1941 15,748,091
1944 15,192,089
1947 15,688,259
1948 15,688,259
1949 11,266,600

Now you may be wondering what happened to all those Jews in 1948-49. No fresh estimates were made between 1938 and 1947. The figures listed for 1941, 1947, and 1948 are identified as estimates made in 1938. The source for the estimate for 1944 is not given, and the numbers are listed differently than in other years. In 1944, the numbers are given as a part of a list of various world religions rather than standing on their own with a country-by-country breakdown as in the other years.

Only in 1949 are postwar estimates employed, the figures given are for estimates made in 1948. A year or two lag seems to be common for various other population estimates given by the World Almanac.

The difference between the 1938 and 1948 figures is thus 4,481,491.

In 1949, however, the World Almanac gives a revised 1939 population of 16,643,120 giving a difference of between 1938 and 1947 of 5,376,520. Where the extra population between 1938 and 1939 came from is not cited, though one might speculate that it was based upon the Nazi estimates made in 1942 for the Wannsee Conference.

Despite the apparent exactness of the numbers listed, the World Almanac warns that all numbers listed are estimates.

The World Almanac estimates figured prominently in another instance of the Gambit when the New York Times published inflated estimates of the post-war Jewish population in 1948, and early deniers used the story to dismiss claims of 6 million Jewish deaths. i

The Times later explained that their data had come from the 1948 World Almanac in this letter to Morris Kominsky from the author of the piece:

"Dear Mr. Kominsky,
"Thank you for your letter of inquiry of January 6.
"The world Jewish population figures printed in this
story came from the 1948 edition of the World Almanac.
Later we checked it with the American Jewish Committee and
other sources and said in the correction, as I noted to you
in my previous letter, that the authorities agree that
Hitler's wholesale massacre of Jews during the war reduced
the Jewish population to perhaps 12 million today (2/26/4.
"If Mr. Freedman met with me I do not remember it.
The problem is of course, that you are talking about events
that took place 19 years ago. I see hundreds of people per
year, many of them only for a few minutes so I could not
swear that I did not see Mr. Freedman but if I did it made
no impression either upon me or upon my assistant.
"I do not know what Mr. Freedman means by examination
of documents but to my knowledge we had no particular
documents bearing on the issue in question.
"I hope this answers your questions; if there is
anything else you wish to know please do not hesitate to
write again.
"Sincerely, Hanson W. Baldwin (Military Editor)"

For the complete story, see this article from Annie Alpert, posted in 1996.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/denial-of-science/worldalmanac.html

 

$anning has been thoroughly debunked, the man is a proven overt liar (see post 505) his claims regarding Jews under Soviet occupation is a lie, there was no mass emigration between 1939 and 1941 of Eastern Polish Jews into the Soviet interior, it is a fantasy based on nothing but thin air!

 

You have provided debunked spam, the World Almanac Gambit is one of the most thoroughly discredited denialist claims and only a novice negationist would even think to try to slip it through. Come on and give us a challenge.

 

Yes, he is a A) A proven liar, B) he wrote for the Vichy during the war, and C) Wrote for far right pro-Fascist magazines; such as, Rivarol.

He is a proven liar, in fact I have proven it in this very thread.

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ZEE JOOZZZZZ!!!

 

This is an overt lie and has reported in violation of rule number 10, provide the quote from the Torah/Talmud to which you are referring or kindly desist in your anti-Semitic propaganda campaign.

 

This is a lie, provide the Talmudic verse or kindly refrain from violating the forum rules with your spam.

 

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*), provide the verse of the Talmud, Torah, or Tanakh to which you are referring to or kindly desist in your overt ant-Semitic propaganda campaign. None of the links to virulently anti-Semitic neo-Nazi websites posted the verse from the Talmud, Torah, or Tanakh, and they won't because no such verse exists!

 

Sorry folks, thread is closed. Too many rule violations to count.


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