NCA raid suspected gun factory in south London

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    It's not that hard to convert a blank firing gun into a lethal weapon. Ask Alec Baldwin if you don't believe it.
     
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    Steel frame blank firing revolvers can't be that hard to attach a barrel to.
     
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    The full bore barrel screws on just like the blank firing sub-caliber barrel.
     
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    I do know the revolvers come in 22 38 and I believe 9 mm. Requiring a moon clip for the auto cartridge though.

    If they were a steel gun it would be as easy as removing the original barrel and maybe a bit of drilling to fit and welding in another one..

    Or if they were already threaded so much the easier.

    But by the way no one should be doing that unless they check the laws because I do not know the legality of such a thing. It could also be unsafe.

    I encourage everyone to obey the law
     
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    Ah yes, here we go again. The desperate argument of the firearm owner who has nothing useful to contribute the debate about firearms. 'You can't prevent people making them or using them ergo there's no point in restricting them.' What Brilliant logic.

    It goes right alongside such greats as;

    'you can't stop road accidents so why have road rules?'
    'you cant stop houses catching fire so why have fire departments?" and of course
    'you can stop death so why have Doctors'

    Another major contribution to the art of logic.
     
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    Just the usual retarded comment that guns are banned in the UK. Those American's that believe that, are not worth the time of day in any form of discussion because they'll just come out with another pile of crap.
     
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    They're banned in the UK as much as they are anywhere else. Of course, guns arent really, technically 'banned' anywhere in the world- all governments use them, have military and police that use them, and allow their wealthy and 'important' people to protect themselves with guns. So, if you wanna get technical, there is no such thing as 'totally banned' guns anywhere.

    But in the common usage of the term 'banned'- meaning only allowed with the official and expressed permission of the govt -that is indeed the case in the UK.
     
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    I so love how the right keeps throwing up it’s arms and giving in.

    The thing with a low number of illegal guns is that sooner or later (usually sooner) the cops find out and like in this case they close it down. If you have one guy among thousands with legal guns then an illegal gun it is not noticed. Have one guy with an illegal gun among an “unarmed” population he firstly stands out like a sore toe, secondly all his enemies (crims always have enemies) will notice and “dob him in” third even the criminals in England do not want a lot of illegal guns sloshing around the black market because the poms have been through more terrorist attacks than you could poke a stick at and even the crims do not want “the wrong people” getting guns
     
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    It doesn't work that way for drugs. How are guns different?
     
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    We aren't giving in. We're pointing out how banning guns will only cause more problems. Criminals will have guns and law abiding citizens will be defenseless. No doubt that's by design.
     
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    It's nearly impossible to own a handgun in England. Only the rich and politically connected can get a permit That's the same thing as a ban.

    But, you see, here in The United States, the anti-gunners want them all banned. They tell you that. All you have to do is listen.
     
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    We can't ban criminals because they run the government.
     
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    The only ppl who want guns in UK are thugs and gangsters.
     
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    Guns are only needed when one has no diplomatic skills.
     
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    Well thats certainly not ture. Sure, most situations can be resolved peacefully if both sides are interested in cooperative peace (as most people are), but not all people are interested in cooperative peace. Some people only refrain from getting what they want through force when they're not confident their force will be adequate or successful, or when the consequences of using that force outweigh the benefit.
     
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    Did you go and take a survey of everyone?
    What a very silly statement to make and obviously very untrue
     
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    They have no diplomatic skills then. Human nature is not hard wired to murder.
     
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    You don't know any UK ppl. I know thousands and everyone of them doesn't want a gun, the one or two that I know who want a gun are gangsters.
     
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    True, but human nature is apparently not hard wired against murder (or just simple violence) either. Or, perhaps it often is, but not universally. Whether its a 'nature' issue or a 'nurture' issue is often debated (its prolly both), but in the case where we have to deal with someone who (either by nature or by innapropriate nurture) is uninterested in diplomacy and is happy to take what they want by force, our skill at diplomacy will be irrelevant unless we have a 'stick' with which to comparitively increase the allure of the 'carrot.'
     
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    And Australia and most industrialised nations

    Result

    Safe to visit these places but the USA is getting such a bad name that tourism is dropping off
     
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    You are a human, are you hard wired to love or kill?
     
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    You don't know any American people but you sit here and tell us what we think all the time.

    Anyone that likes to do fun things like possibly ride motorcycles probably also likes to shoot guns because shooting guns is also fun.

    It's a pretty sad day that your government won't allow you to do that.

    How do you feel knowing that your government officials deem themselves worthy of armed self-defense but they deny you the same option?

    It seems like the hypocrisy would sting a little bit
     
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    If none of them wanted guns, the government wouldn't have had to ban guns.
     
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    I'm 'wired' similarly to the majority of other people to avoid violence and care about people. Also I was raised that way. But clearly not everyone is on board with that strategy. I'm also wired (and raised) to be prepared to protect the loving people from the violent people, if it becomes necessary. I can hope it doesn't and statistics are on my side that it won't, but hope and statistics isn't enough. I have a responsibility to be prepared to help protect the people around me as much as I do to protect myself. If the people around me take on a similar responsibility, we're all better off for it.
     
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