Near death experiencer shown no condemnation for women who choose....

... .to terminate the life of their unborn child.

Condemnation..... is not the point of this life..... or of any of the choices that we make while we are here in four dimensional space - time.


Mrs. Ariela Solsol Pereira's near death experience from 1967 has the power to transform the way that many of us look at the question of abortion.


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20509374-divine-truths-revealed
DIVINE TRUTHS REVEALED
by Ariela Solsol (Goodreads Author)

 

The message of forgiveness is critical to understand but.......

 

Only people who have committed NONE of your "sins" should condemn anyone....but the hypocrites do.


No reason to condemn a woman for having a medical procedure.

Only a hypocritical, self righteous, pride filled, sin filled jackass would do that.


AND this is not the "Preaching/Pomposity" Forum ,it's the Abortion Forum.....

Preaching and Pomposity and Fantasy will be found in the Religion Forum.

 

Whether or not this thread should be in this forum.... or in the Religion and Philosophy forum....
is a question that I am not sure of the answer to......
so I will leave that to the discretion of whichever moderator views this topic first.

But yes...... you are onto something... .I am of the belief that Ms. Ariela Solsol met Messiah Yeshua - Jesus - Issa during her brush with death.......... and yes.... he had been sinless while human and no....... he did not condemn her for having had an abortion.....(or two)......

 

Then maybe those who believe in Jesus should get a hint and quit condemning and denigrating women who have abortions....but they won't.

 

I put up a poll on a Christian discussion forum a few weeks ago and the result,
to my thinking, indicates that fifty percent or more of Christians
have taken some significant steps toward being able to understand the idea
of why the being of light of NDE fame would
show Ms. Ariela Solsol Pereira that she was not looked down on
for having allowed her physicians to perform an abortion.


christianforums.com/threads/friends-of-yours-watch-heaven-is-for-real-and-ask-you-about-it.8032497/
Friends of yours watch Heaven Is For Real and ask you about it?

Is Colton Burpo a credible witness?
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1. *
   Yes
   8 vote(s)
   50.0%
2. 
   No
   6 vote(s)
   37.5%
3. 
   I am not sure but I am looking into this.
   2 vote(s)
   12.5%
   

 

Maybe someday you could cut the gobbledygoop and show some relation between that stuff and women's right to their own bodies.....and leave religion out, it's irrelevant.

 

If women know that their baby has a soul......
and lives on after death.. .they will tend to choose
life over having an abortion.

A high percentage of women do not consider it to be irrelevant.........

Many women will be interested by what Colton says about his sister who was miscarried......
that is after the 24 minute mark in this video:

 

WHY if they know it "lives on" ????

And they have every right to decide what to do with their pregnancy...and leave others alone....

So?

As long as they keep their goofy beliefs to themselves and don't try to legislate that gobbledygoop I don't care.

 

I don't believe in god, but killing the jews in a gas chamber was a "medical procedure"?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Only people who have committed NONE of your "sins" should condemn anyone....but the hypocrites do.


No reason to condemn a woman for having a medical procedure.

Only a hypocritical, self righteous, pride filled, sin filled jackass would do that.


AND this is not the "Preaching/Pomposity" Forum ,it's the Abortion Forum.....

Preaching and Pomposity and Fantasy will be found in the Religion Forum.

Where in the post of mine you quoted did I refer to Jews ? No where....why would you imagine I did?

Can you show me where those words are? I didn't think so... So why would you say I did ?


Is that honest?


Why the fixation with Jews?... ( which is capitalized , BTW...)

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...go-to-heaven-publisher-says-it-will-pull-book

It is not possible for women or anyone else to KNOW their babies have a "soul." Please do not use your religious belief as a basis for constructing laws for all.

 

Sorry...... but I must obey G-d to the best of my ability..... not you...... or FoxHastings!

 

This is all quite relevant again......

Near death experiencers have added some fascinating information to this topic... for example Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera was shown her two or three aborted babies who were so glad to see her during her brush with death. They totally forgave her for aborting them.

On the other hand another near death experiencer reported that God the Father so identifies with the foetus that God the Father screams.... when a baby is aborted..... even in the first trimester. At the moment I can't remember for cetain which near death experiencer added that detail.

 

~ ALL will be forgiven in the next life. We all are imperfect and expected to be so. With faith there is understanding and love - not condemnation.

 

Exactly!

We are free to remain in un-forgiveness in the afterlife....
for a long time if we wish.....
but doing so is a very extremely dangerous decision.

 

Did the woman forgive her little unborn child for causing her inconvenience?

 

No, what you are constantly pumping is NOT what Jesus did while on Earth and it is NOT what he calls his followers to do.

Jesus called you to search out and give aid to those in poverty, in hospitals, in prison - with hell being the penalty for failure to do that.

Jesus washed the feet of the harlot.

You were NOT directed by your religion to make laws against women.

And as per the US constitution, religion, including your religion, is NOT a justification for any law.

 

Don't you think it's fair to say that if we are directed to search out and give aid to those in hospitals, poverty and prison, we should probably also attend to those inside a womb who are in danger?

 

How many abortions had she had?

 

Just to point out, that's not exactly what the US Constitution says. It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of a religion".
That's not exactly the same thing as "government shall make no law because of religious reasons", which is what you seem to be reading into it.

Slavery was in large part abolished mainly due to religious reasons, just for your information. (You know, like "How do we know whether slavery is right or wrong?")

 

According to their argument, it would have been wrong to stop the Nazis.

 

That's not exactly what the Bible says...

What you stated is true, for those who had even a live seed of faith understanding and love in the first place.

"I tell you, that to every one who has will more be given; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away."

You can't really "have faith" and get a non-essential abortion at the same time.

There's obviously not a lot of faith there.

Can a woman who keeps on killing over and over again, and hasn't changed her mind at all if it were to happen again, go to heaven? I don't know, but certainly that type of position would put her in danger.

If killing "doesn't really matter", why would any other sin?

 

We have discussed in the past that there are ways to stop women from getting abortions without specifically condemning them.

 

DennisTate, you might want to read this near death experience -

Testimony of Doctor Gloria Polo