Nearly 80,000 immigrants approved for DACA have arrest records

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Irregardless, most of them were brought here against their will — why are their crime rates a third of the average American?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pathetic strawmen aside, Please do not edit down my posts because the result is uncomfortable for you. If you don’t have the integrity to respond then don't...
     
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    What do you prepose we do with these individuals that have never had a home other than America?
     
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    It might not be, you didnt prove that. You did a general stat from the US population with a stat with one subset within a certain age group. Illegals in general commit twice as many crimes as citizens, its possible the same is true for DACA.

    Or not. Like others have said, its completely irrelevant. Any crime committed by an illegal shouldn't have happened in the first place. Being brought against their will is irrelevant
     
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    I answered your question in the first sentence. Wanting to stay here is pretty good motivation.
    me thinks your reading comprehension is shoddy:)

    Why do Hispanics, the most common ethnicity of illegal aliens, commit crime at a higher rate than white people? Why do minorities illegal or not commit crime at a high rate than white people? Why are Jews so successful in everything we do no matter where we live? We can do this all day.
     
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    Lots of things are possible, until proven though it is just opinion.

    Their age and contribution to the incident is completely irrelivant.
     
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    Except you didn’t, of course they wish to stay in the only home they have ever known.
    If someone came to you and said your parents were actually illegal and we are going to deport you to a third world nation would you just shrug and say ok?

    Should children be responsible for the actions of their parents?

    Have a source for this?
    I cannot find a credible source that has evidence of your statement.
    Legal immigrants have lower arrest records however.
    https://www.ncjrs.gov/criminal_justice2000/vol_1/02j.pdf
    DACA recipients have lower crime rates as well as disclosed previously.

    Many organizations have shown the crime rate is less than or equal to US citizens.
    https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev-criminol-032317-092026
    https://www.cato.org/publications/i...f/their-numbers-demographics-countries-origin
    https://www.nber.org/papers/w13229
     
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    Its not if you understand statistics
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What statistics would you like to discuss?
    Opinion is not statistics.
     
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    If you take your kids to Japan for a holiday, they are in Japan against their will - obviously. How does that make them entitled to Japanese citizenship? Terrible argument. Go try it in Japan and see what happens.
     
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    Elected democrats are responsible for the criminal entry of these immigrants. It's why CA, NY and other democrat led strongholds are in such a sorry state.
     
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    Thank you! I would add Chinese to Jews. Same applies. Why aren't they committing crimes in the West, and why are they successful?
     
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    Actually having a criminal record disqualifies someone from DACA. Some bureaucrats are breaking the law.
     
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    You can’t deprive US citizens of their citizenship, there is other punishment they have in store for them.

    What you’re suggesting is that these 80,000 Illegal aliens with big dreams should still have a path to citizenship. Right?
     
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    After hearing the SC arguments made by several parties, I believe that DACA is dead in the water. I see no way the SC approves keeping it active.
     
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    LOL as the american people had placed into the white house a criminal gang this concern over a group that is roughly half as likely to be criminal then citizens is amusing.
     
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    Yup but you are being totally unfair if you bring facts into the DACA argument.
     
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    Family values and promoting education and excellence. Latin Americans and most other minorities promote getting free **** over and taking the easy way out over being the ones who build it all. Quite a simple formula.:)

    Exceptions obviously exist but there are also patterns. Latin America is historically been a cesspool. Importing Latin America will just turn us into Latin America eventually when we don’t demand excellence out of those we let in. We accept the lowest common denominator and we’ll become it. So very sad.
     
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    Since they were brought here as children by their parents I would consider some logical and reasonable compromise. Unless they served in the military I would never give them the right to be citizens. The best that I can come up with is legal resident aliens. Their parents are criminals and should have been deported long ago.

    But for all practical purposes how can we do much to either the CACAlites or their criminal parents since we did not do Schiest all of these years.
     
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    So are you saying that the Latin Americans are the most prevalent illegal? Should we ban all Latin American immigration?
     
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    I did answer it. You dismissed it. People afraid of deportation have motivation to stay. And their parents should have been kicked out long ago and if they love their children they should have taken them with them or left them with guardians who are citizens. Still exploiting the **** out of us but that’s the culture. It’s mostly corrupt.

    Crime statistics show who commits crime you know. Look it up. You truly don’t know which Demographics commit the most crime per capita? Go do a little research and get back to me. It’s like I’m being trolled or something. Jeeeeze.
     
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    We should ban anyone from entry who doesn’t have ID and a clean record, credit, a bank account and an education. We dont need anyone else. We don’t need anyone who will be dependent on the govt. just more hand outs and makes us a weaker nation. And is it truly that unreasonable? You don’t hire the weakest candidates on a job hunt. You hire the best. You don’t marry the ugliest, dumbest guy or the bitter mean fat chick . You look for bigger, stronger and funny, smarter and attractive.
    Nature. Right now we’re going against nature and it will destroy the country.
     
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    I also believe it will be dead. Yet what do we do with the DACAlites?
    Deportation? Concentration reeducation camps whetewe teach them Family Values and excellence? Genocide? That sounds rather not nice I would oppose that.

    I would vote for deportation it is much cleaner. Reeducation camps could be costly and no guarantees that they would work.
     
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    Technically still illegal but on hold pending further review to determine if a foul was committed.
     
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    That is my opinion it is the parents who are illegals and need punishment.
     

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