Negligent parents lose firearms rights?

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Negligent parents lose firearms rights?

  1. Yes, a few years.

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  2. No

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  3. Yes, permanently.

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gun owner leaves gun and ammo out.

    Child takes gun, takes ammo, plays with loaded gun, kills himself or someone else.

    Should parents lose their firearms rights for 5 years?

    They clearly do not respect the danger of firearms, and the incredible danger of children with loaded guns.

    Such negligence cannot go unanswered. Im not saying prison, or even a fine. But banning them from owning firearms for a few years should send a message.
     
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    Texan Well-Known Member

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    Properly adjudicated with the above scenario, I have no problem taking a parents gun rights. If my kid runs to my closet and gets my shotgun and kills a home invader, I want a medal for raising a responsible son. Guns are not toys and the sooner you teach your kids the better off you will be. My boys shoot regularly and have no curiosity.

    My boys started shooting my 12ga at about 12-13. My little one is a 175 lb 15 year old. He is athletic, plays high school baseball and band, and knows right from wrong. He knows the answer to his problems is not found in my closet. His mom and dad have always provided solutions that are good for him. He understands that we have his best interests in mind, even if the solution is difficult for him.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a states rights issue. Many states put negligent parents at fault if firearms are not properly secured.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    as long as you agree that negligent parents should lose their gun rights for some time
     
  5. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Stupid idea..

    Charge them with negligent homicide and they will lose their gun rights if convicted..

    You want to make up some crazy law to attack them on their gun rights alone? Why?
     
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    Who determines if they are truly negligent?
     
  7. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    leaving loaded firearm around for a child to play with, is negligence
     
  8. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    For sure, you definitely shouldn't leave a real gun around where a child can play with it or easily get their hands on it..

    Keep your locked and loaded ready to go guns away from where kids will grab them duh..

    When the kid gets old enough to understand show them the real gun and what it does, let them shoot it so it will remove the curiosity, and teach them that it is very dangerous and they are never to go near it unless you are specifically directing them to do so, such as range time..
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    No punishment can be worse than losing your child knowing it's your fault. If anything removing weapons would be suicide prevention.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fine, see it as an administrative protective action, not a punishment
     
  11. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    How is losing your child knowing it's your fault AND going to prison NOT worse than losing your child knowing it's your fault and not going to prison?
     
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    Such an approach to the situation would make no logical sense. How would such a policy even go about being enforced in the real world, when there is no way of enforcing child access prevention laws that already exist?
     
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    To adequately answer such, it would be necessary to delve into the realm of psychiatry, and address the hypothetical need one may have to experience punishment for wrongdoing to assuage them of their guilt, assumed or otherwise. From such a standpoint, purely for the sake of hypothetical discussion, not sending them to prison would theoretically be a worse punishment to subject them to, as they will spend the rest of their lives punishing themselves for their own actions.

    However such psychological theory falls apart when one looks at the actions of career criminals who experience no guilt over their actions, and hold no value for human life whatsoever.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Losing a child and having it be your fault would be worse than death.... nothing else would matter; no life after. Most with children would know what I mean.
     
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    Ahhh the opposite side of the argument....a poll should have both sides eh? You already deserve a medal ;-)
     
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    Should parents whose kids drown in a bathtub lose their bathing rights too?
     
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    Thats the thing.

    Irresponsible parents are just that.

    Most irresponsible parents get their kids killed in the bathtub, on the stairs, or in the medicine cabinet/cleaning supplies.

    But sure, let's focus on the 0.3% of fatal accidents by irresponsible parents.
     
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    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Damn well better lock em up then because they will have that "nothing left to lose" mentality and could do all sorts of terrible things, because nothing matters anymore..
     
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    Unless they have more family. Putting the breadwinner in jail could ruin the lives of the rest of the family.
     
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    Kick dead animals do you?
    I knew a fellow whose daughter died from a peanut allergy from a sandwich he made for her; he hadn't cleaned the knife properly from a peanut butter sandwich his son had just made. He was a broken, hollow man after that, he never recovered, lost his marriage, his job, just basically became a recluse and wasted away... no help or social services worked. Devistating to watch.
    Another lady I knew, backed out of her driveway over he 4 year old... pretty much did the same. When I think about something similar happening with me or mine, I don't find either reaction unfathomable.

    BTW, both my girls were trained in Gun safety from a very early age, both are familiar with a broad range of guns and both far better shots than I.
    When I was young, I acquired a gun at 8. Neighter of my parents knew, but my Da had also trained me in Gun Saftey from the age of 4-5 on.
    I fault the kids parents more for not properly training their kid in Gun safety and to not be a moron. Being a moron kills far more than do guns.
     
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    because he wants to create as many laws as possible to harass lawful gun owners
     
  22. AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS

    AGWisFAKEsillyBABYKILLERS Well-Known Member

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    Or poke em with a stick..
    That dead deer is dangerous if it ain't all the way dead..
     
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    If he was selling drugs you would say throw away the key
     
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    Isn't selling drugs an overt crime?
     
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    Is being so negligent that it results in the death of a child a crime?
     

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