Neo-Nazi rock festival in Germany attracts *over 5500* attendees

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  1. notme

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    They do. Maybe you need to move to an other country where freedom is restricted?
     
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    oh and with subtitles...

     
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    First of all, it's not restriction of freedom - it's public decency. I do not observe in world happening any sort of "straight pride parades", logically - they are not considered being a necessity. Same there - a pointless, useless and repulsive show off.

    Second - I live in country where such actions are not permitted, albeit same goes for marriage for homosexuals. Hint - I do not have that badge on my avatar for nothing, also it basically written in my profile - I am from Russian Federation. Fine with gays - don't like "pride parades". Never heard of Elton John or Freddie Mercury participating in one - apparently because they had better things to do with their free time. Spent it with people they care about, maybe - a legal husband and a child in case of John, for example. Instead of freaking out strangers on the street by bad cosplay of Rio Carnival.

    As I said - people pretty much have right for whatever private life they want, but public events are public events. They got to be useful, or fun, or meaningful. From what I saw - these parades, albeit pretty much legal in countries where they are permitted - not arguing about that part - they are pointless, repulsive and tasteless for the most part.


    Still - of course, go and wave rainbow+brown+black colored flags, dress up like mugged hookers and bash yourself in the chest, screaming about how normal and acceptable you are. I am sure it helps (not) people to actually accept you. Have fun.
     
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    How about you move to Saudi Arabia where they got laws and police checking for public decency?
     
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    I do not find it being a valid reason for migration. Plus I am fine with society that just keeps personal life personal and does not makes a public show out of it. Do not see why you can't have both tolerance and decency - they can coexist well.

    Now stop being antagonistic and drammatic and inflating a whale out of fly - when I speak of decency I speak of adequate, polite decency, not some marasmic prudence beyond reason. Is that understandable?
     
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    Who are you to claim what is decent?
    They have gay pride parade's all over the world.

    If you demand they don't happen, than just move to a country like saudi arabia.
     
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    I am a citizen posessing no less rights than any other and a one posessing a sence of style and good taste on top of that.
    - not decent.
    - not decent.
    - not decent.
    - not decent.


    We all are very different, colorful and each of us has own, specific set of cockroaches in the head. This is why there are certain norms we agreed one, that are not exactly violent or restrictive - that help us coexist without driving each other mad. As evident from your posts - you dislike Saudi, likely due to their muslim tradition. Through the agreed on norms it is NOT PERMITTED to slice sheeps in public places during Bairam. Yes, it's a feast after a whole month of pretty honest fasting - and yes, plenty of people eat meat that been basically killed same exact way, but NO - that will NOT be done that in public places, under the people's windows, horrifying them with sight of blood pools on asphalt and screams of dying animal.

    Same applies, in my opinion, to gay parades. That - is from the point of view of decency.


    From my personal - I already said, it's a pointless and repulsive show off of trashy costumes and unhealthy attitude that drives people to be making a show of their public life. You don't run around streets informing people about your mother's birthday or get parade to show your pride over your uncle's marriage. Why would you be getting parade over who you sleep with / marrying to / have family with? We already have events for such occasions - they called bachelor parties, marriages and anniversaries. And they usually celebrated with family, not a crowd of strangers.



    Now, are you UNDERSTANDING my position, or I need to present it yet again, from yet another angle?
     
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    A western norm is having a gay pride parade.
    And it is rather obvious you do not support these western norms.
    Hence I suggested that you should be in Saudi.

    Oh your position is clear on it. You're just not taking into account what is common in the western world and invent your opinion is what matters.
     
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    Well, one can't like everything. At least we're not positioning this as conflict anymore, even if I feel you are despising my "conservative" position.
     
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    The only ones who are doing the despising thing, is you lot on western norms when gay pride parade goes on.
     
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    "lot" of? What, you now can't bear a society without gay parades?

    What "lot" of norms despises absence of gay parades?
     
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    But she just declared war on Blonde Germans. So much for equality.
     
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    Its the other way around, remember?
     
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    Rather not. I can very well imagine a society with gay parades, and even have plenty of living examples of such societies. I just think that these parades are a pointless and repulsive show off.

    But I don't get what kind of civic freedoms lack of that action violates. As far as I am aware right to "dress up like a hooker and march across town once a year" is not a civic right, it's a just a bonus. People have right to express themselves, people have right to have whatever adult parthners they want, people have right to gather public events if they violate no laws.

    Does not mean I approve people wasting these rights on gathering a сrappy parody of Rio Carnival and showing how they "proud" of what appears to be not a source of pride - but just a matter of their personal taste. As I said already, I do not see "proud to be straight" parades, or "proud to like tomato sauce" parades, or "proud to like having threesomes" parades. So I do not understand what is so special about being homosexual or bisexual or pansexual or whatever else is there - to gather a parade to honor that. It's not an act of heroism, it is not a result of long and persistent effort - it's not an achievement. It's just a choise.

    Should I now be parading to show how I am proud to buy belarusian milk in grocery store last week?
     
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    Does saying such nonsense create pain in your head?
     
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    What is the problem with native nationalism in Germany ? Don't German people have rights ?
     
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    Im a german nationalist. National7sm is not nazism.
     
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    Not being German, I don't understand what is happening. However, this purported nazi rally seems to be an expression of social or cultural frustrations. Can you speak on that ?
     
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    Im not a Nazi so i dont know why they go to such events.
     
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    Well, if I was German, I would certainly want to know why.
     
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    Evry country has its extremes.
     
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    You say it is extreme ? Perhaps it is not so extreme to the participants.
     
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    I dont recall
     
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    God forgive gay people have the ability to be just as miserable as the rest of us
     

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