Neo-Nazi rock festival in Germany attracts *over 5500* attendees

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  1. notme

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    You previously said "As long as they don't make these marasmatic parades" and suddenly now it's... I can imagine they have them...
    /facepalm
     
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    Do not see anything "sudden", if you misinterprited my statement and imagined a some sort of cliche set of traits behind it - this is your problem, not mine. Mine - is to explain in details to you, I suppose, the obvious details of human nature. So let's try again: I do consider these parades being marasmic, but never said they are a crime, or whetever you presumed I label them as. Moronic, disgusting, pointless, alienating, repelling - but not a crime. Unless one of the vulgar participant's thong snaps and they end up being completely nude in middle of crowded street. That, I assume, is a violation of public order - otherwise we would've not had nudist beaches and had no problems with exhibitionists flashing themselves in public.


    Again - I do not need to consider thing being impossible, or totally unacceptable, or a crime - to consider it being inapropriate and disgusting.


    And I have a sensation that this concept somewhat confuses you. People can be tolerant and acceptive and yet still dislike some things and express disapproval of these things. As example.. For example one does not need to be a xenopatriot to criticise the Victory Day parade in May. I can understand why people may dislike the celebration of end war that happened over seven decades ago. On the other hand - at very least it does honours memory of those who died in this war, civilians and soldiers alike, our and foreign alike. Still - can be criticised. Despised even. Out of pure and honest opinion of a person.

    That is what people tend to do - have opinions, make judgements. If you find somebody's judegement being incorrect - worst thing you can do is antagonise them. If you want them to change opinion - be welcome to present them alternative judgements and explain different points of view.

    Instead of hopping on "western values" pony and riding into sunset, throwing people offers to migrate to Saudi Arabia. That understandable, or on western forum full of western values such barbarian as me does not has a right for personal opinion on things? Should I be banned for such a blasphemy as displeasement with LGBT parades? Or my opinion can be expressed, discussed - and in a mutually respectful manner? Because I already encountered plenty of people on this forum eager to throw dirt on me for my views, nationality and citizenship, becuse apparently people have problems with me being both a russian and a citizen of Russian Federation. That is - in case you are really interested in assisting people under harrasment and don't just do that for people of nonclassic sexual preferences exclusively.
     
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  3. notme

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    You made it crystal clear you didn't want those parades. So don't whine at me that I suggest to move to Saudi Arabia to not have them parades.
     
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    Very charming. And you do not complain about me disliking them, then.

    And don't whine then when people will not be understanding and open towards your values - you do not appear to be eager to explain them to other cultures. Even cultures literally neighbouring and closely tied to yours.
     
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    Are you denying der Merkel is targeting blonde Germans?
     
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    Globalists like der Merkel are scum of the Earth.
     
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    Pure comedy. Im dark blonde as you can see? So what is she doing against me?
     
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    I support western norms. You do not. That is the difference.
     
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    I dislike one thing, that is not in any way necessary for society - stop inflating whale out of fly.

    And by the way, start getting rid of this "western world" narrative. There are countries, governments and people. No "western" civiliation, no "western" culture.
    Japan has plenty of same cultural traits - yet it does not stops in any way their chauvinistic traditions of treating foreign migrants like lowest grade citizens.
    Poland has plenty of same cultural traits - has even the gay parades - but lacks legal marriages, or actually any sort of legal recognition of same sex relationships - wonder what LGBT folk there celebrates with these parades.
    And speaking of "west" and LGBT - Switzerland, appears to still have no legal same sex marriages and rights on full adoptions.

    And since I have the opportunity - the gender equality there seems to have been embraced with quite a lag too - in 1971.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage#Timeline

    Just a mere half of century after we got gender equal civil rights. Not the stupid parade - but actual equal rights, equal wage, equal treatment and equal responsibilities. And not for just the white - for all colors of skin, all faiths, all ethnics and all languages.

    So if you really wish to discuss our differences - be welcome. But remember - moral pedestal you stand on is not smoother than mine.
     
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    You were rather firm you didn't want it, and acted like the Christian version of the Islamic religious police telling us what to wear and what not with a collage of pictures as example. You're just back peddling ever since you got busted with the wrong side of western norms and values.

    Of course there is such a thing.

    You're just moving the goalpost from the western norm of gay pride parade to same sex marriages. Let be kick you back and say you've just admitting gay pride parade is the western norm, and you're just not part of it.
     
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    Well, first of all you have no actual idea what religion I am - I can be a christian, a muslim, an atheist, a budhist - even a shamanist, we have plenty of them in republic Sakha and in Chukotka region.

    Second - I am not telling you what to wear, I am telling you that the looks such as on that image I find crossing the boundaries of public decency. Decency that not I made, decency we agreed on as a societies. And in that collage I gave you good examples of different groups of people crossing same boundaries of same decency, pointing to you that your case is not in any way uniue.

    Third - if you tractate my explanations and nurturing of simpliest and most obvious information into you as some sort of weakness - this is your bloody ungrateful problem. In fact I am not your mama and not your papa, so if you can't have conversations with people as with equals - it is not up to me to fix that.

    Noup. As I pointed to you - "western" world is not consistent and often does not shares same values - depending of what country will be compared to what.

    Well, gay parades do not appear to be helping polish gays to have equal civil right for marriage, do they?
    They have the "equality" parade for SIXTEEN YEARS without the actual equality. A country that positions itself extremely "western" - even when it, for example, prosecutes people on national basis.

    "norms" that make no difference - are just pointless and empty rites. People parading once a year, waving flags and then go homes to the usual life they have, where they still can be looked on like some sort of freaks. And I assure you - dressing up like freaks does not helps it. So - my point thands, and even is somewhat proven by example of Poland: these parades are a pointless show off.

    Celebrate nothing, change nothing. Waste time and money, and fuel the distrust towards LGBT community. Just like you are fueling it by showing more interest in a useless show over the actual civic equaity.

    So-o-o... You really care so little about freedom and rights, or just been trolling me this whole time? =ω= If second - got to admit, it was a good one.
     
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    Taking pork off the menu of public schools.
    The Deutschvolk are a pork eating volk.
    Parents who don't like it can always send their kid to school with a brown bag lunch & snacks.

    Social services you worked for are going to be diluted by Merkel's behavior.

    How's that for starters?

    :woot:

    Oh and if you object, you are termed a right wing extremist. True!?
     
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    We have pork in public schools.

    You talk rubbish.

    Problem is, you are not german. You have no clue about germany and then throw nonsense out you did read somewhere in internet.

    I give you something that might shock you: the opinion of a non german is absolute worthless and irrelevant.
     
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    The news here spoke of the pork and school menu situation.
    BTW I have the same opinion of ferigners commenting on :flagus:
     
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    Der Merkel's Syrian refugee friends are calling for the extinction of blond hair, blue eyed Germans. Invite another million! What a world.
     
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    Oh really? Where? When? Why? And how? They are not even 0.02% of population in Thüringen.
     
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    So, there are about 5,500 Nazi's in Europe? That sounds like a remarkably low and insignificant number, compared to the hysteria of some.
     
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    A tenth of your country is Muslim and growing at a rate of two percent per year. Face it, your Germanic country will cease to exist before you know it.
     
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    You made far too many of posts about your idea's of public decency for me to claim you're unfit to the western society that simple accepts gay pride parades. No amount of back peddling will safe you now.

    Says you, while say most to as good as the whole of the EU claims them immigrant muslims from Syria etc don't share our western norms and values... but are welcome to are unable to fit in our society. Just dumb trolling to deny this and push your opinion as if that matters here.

    You're still busy moving the goalpost from the western norm of accepted gay pride parade to same sex marriages.
     
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    Oh, the horror! In only I had a society to live in..! Oh, right. I already do.

    If you can't handle migrants - don't take them. Write a petition to your government with demand of closing borders for migrants and refugees, if you have issue with that. Don't be passive. Government needs an input from the people.

    Rather pointing and pointlessness of parades - they don't have any effect on status of gays. Hence - a pointless show off, just as I said from the start. Useless. And I do not like when people waste time on useless show offs, if you haven't figured that out yet.

    Let's put it that way: you can argue, you can understand me, or you can continue repeating same thing and getting corrected over and over again. If you choose latest - adieu, I am not interested in arguing with a recording. Talking to signs is even more interesting than that, you know.
     
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    Lol. We have 3 million muslims in Germany. We are 82 million people.

    Math is not your strength i guess?

    In eastern Germany its even less. In my state Thüringen for example its 0.04% and no mosque.

    But you have 92 million muslims in the USA and they grow 20% per year. You will be a kalifate by the end of next year.
     
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    Lol, the most conservative estimate puts them at 4-5 million with the omission that many moderates don't report their religion.

    They're also outproducing you by a margin of 2-1.

    You do the math.
     
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    And all the others cowering in the dusty corners afraid to make a public statement.

    Like the many and unvaried Trump supporting fascists.
     
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    You win the interwebs for posting from one of my favorite games of all time. :D
     
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    Wrong, you have 92 million and they already smash your skyscrapers and outproduce you by a margin 6/1. You can do the math. I was shocked when i heared that USA is a muslim majority country. And 100 million blacks. 50 million mexicans. White americans only 3% of population.
     

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