New Cold War? Iran Sends Warships to Gulf of Mexico ......

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  1. Margot2

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    That's what I think..........
     
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    It's just for show. Even if every Frigate Iran has, meaning all 5 (they are still building a Destroyer), it wouldn't matter.

    Here's what happened when Libya used their navy to attack our navy:
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    Did this "Revolution" include holding American citizens as hostages? That was one of the few Revolutions to remove human rights and freedoms.
     
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    True it was that...... What does that have to do with the US keeping their money?
     
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    I was recently in Nicaragua where it's no secret that the Iranians are making friendly with Daniel Ortega and investing heavily, as are the Chinese.. This should be noteworthy but doesn't seem to be of any interest to the MSM. http://www.coha.org/the-iran-doctrine-in-latin-america-a-threat-to-hemispheric-security/
     
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    Look at it as a fine and the recovery of US expenses. It's a small enough price to pay.
     
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    Well will you also shot down n iranian civil airliner full of children again and award the guy doing it with a medal?

    Did you ever try to understand why Iran acts like it does? Did it ever cross your mind, that USA comitted countless crimes against Iran in history?
     
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    Can we assume from this that the newly arrived Muslims in Germany are having a deep effect on Germany's political thinking and foreign policy actions?

    Is Germany now renewing the friendship with the Arabs that was established during WWII?
     
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    Anyone who knows the facts knows the USS Vincennes was under attack at the time and the approach of an Iranian airliner was mistaken as part of that attack. Let's not forget that if the Iranians hadn't been committed an act of war by mining the shipping lanes in the Persian Gulf, none of this would have happened.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Will
     
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    The US has made some really poor decisions regarding Iran.. We are NOT blameless.
     
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    Germany might be doing that, but some Germans, whom shall remain nameless, are more likely to ship them off to the crematoriums.
     
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    They didn't pay to much attention to the Chinese building a sub port in the Southern Atlantic either. Hemispheric security has been breached for sometime now.
     
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    Every Arab state signed on with the Allies by 1939.

    Germany want a piece of rebuilding Syria so the refugees can go home.
     
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    Perhaps, depending on the Administration, but Iran may be compounding any mistakes into something more serious. Perhaps they should just settle down and try to get along.
     
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    And most, but not all, Arabs did side with the Allies during WWII, despite Nazis publicly praising Muslims and Arabs. Perhaps the ratio then was the same as Muslims supporting terrorism today.

    We may soon see how successful Germany's policy toward refugees will be.
     
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    I wish, but Iran has gone from the Shah to the Ayatollahs.

    Did you know that Iran has very little refining capacity. VZ has refined their crude into gasoline for years and years.
     
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    I wish, but Iran has gone from the Shah to the Ayatollahs.

    Did you know that Iran has very little refining capacity. VZ has refined their crude into gasoline for years and years.
     
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    Iranians are not Arabs. And the few migrants dont change our view on Iran.

    Germany and Iran have a long shared history. A german women became empress of Iran in the 50th

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    But i ask again, will you again shot down civilian airliners and give the responsible man a medal?

    Is injustice suddenly justice, when it hits citizens of a country you view as hostile?
     
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    Right, and that was a dreadful decision made by the cheering Iranians who welcomed the Ayatollah Khomeini back into the country. The Shah had been moving the country into the modern world and only Richard Nixon stood beside him.

    And yet despite these refineries Venezuela is a basket case while countries like Israel and Singapore, neither of which has oil, is doing very well. The best natural resource of any country is an educated and free people, but that idea runs counter to those who want to achieve and maintain power over others.
     
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    I know the facts. And i´m aware that such things happen. But it is how the US reacted that makes it pathetic. No apology, no compensations and giving the responsible a medal is not how you handle that.
     
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    Germany has virtually zero natural rescources beside some coal. Our power is our education system.
     
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    Yes, they prefer to call themselves Persians.
    Such is the European custom of solidifying relationships through marriage.
    Rather sketchy. Do you have more details?
    See above.
     
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    I wish, but Iran has gone from the Shah to the Ayatollahs.

    Did you know that Iran has very little refining capacity. VZ has refined their crude into gasoline for years and years.
     
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    Yeah, what a peaceful world would we live in if only Iran has been as benevolent as you guys were...
     
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    How would you have handled it?
     

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