New Details Emerge About Coronavirus Research at Chinese Lab

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  1. edthecynic

    edthecynic Well-Known Member

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    The Intercept is foreign FAKE NEWS. And your pull quote is NOT from any of the documents but dishonestly pulled from the OPINION of the FAKE NEWS Intercept.
     
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    The truth is that that is NOT the truth.
     
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    Yeah, here is the terrifying information that whackdoodle quotes that make up the "news" from the people who are "proving" Fauci is part of the Great Covid Conspiracy from "The Intercept" News, which is all True, right?!!

    Research into the effects from bats and their effects to the health, which includes their effects of their prey, like cattle pets and people, had cautions to avoid infections and bites from bat. Of course, that means bats are being groomed to be COVID Vampires by Fauci, right?
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The humanized cell research happened at a different lab in Wuhan, not the one that got the NIAID grant money.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Chinese virus funded in part by a US funding grant. WAY back in the beginning of the Pandemic, Chinese documents were revealed, created by Chinese Scientists that cited the very US NIAID grant # and refer to the research as "gain of function" of bat corona viruses. The media scoffed at the suggestion as conspiracy theory, big tech squashed dissemination of reports on the documents. Much like the first reports that the Wuhan lab had live bats. Media unequivocally denied that any live bats were present at the Wuhan lab and weeks later video of the Wuhan lab showing live bats being handled in the lab from 2019 surfaced. With this administration, and the "deep state" in general, their most vehement denials frequently point to the truth.
     
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    The grant was to Wuhan Institute of Virology,

    EcoHealth ultimately received $3.7 million over six years from the NIH and distributed nearly $600,000 of that total to China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology,
    The Wuhan Lab and the Gain-of-Function Disagreement - FactCheck.org

    TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — The revelation that a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had been infecting "humanized mice" with new bat SARS coronaviruses in 2019 raises the question of whether an accident during these experiments led to the COVID-19 pandemic.
    Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruses in 2019 | Taiwan News | 2021-01-11 10:39:00
     
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    The bat virus is harmless to humans. Its only when they add spike proteins to them that they infect humans. None of the bats have viruses with the spike proteins.

    Here is Daszak on video taliking about his research and how easy it is to "manipulate" the virus with spike proteins. (30 minute mark of video)

    WHO inspector caught on camera revealing coronavirus manipulation in Wuhan before pandemic | Taiwan News | 2021-01-18 00:31:00

     
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    The only US scientist permitted to "investigate" was Daszak, the guy in charge of Eco Health alliance that funded the Wuhan IV. And it wasnt much of an investigation.

    No information about this research has been released to the public since the start of the pandemic, including data on the eight chimeric viruses the WIV had been infecting the mice with. In fact, all of the institute's databases have been offline since the start of the pandemic for alleged "cybersecurity issues," including 100 unpublished sequences of bat betacoronaviruses, which need to be sequenced by international scientists, according to Bostickson.
    Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruses in 2019 | Taiwan News | 2021-01-11 10:39:00

    China and the Wuhan lab had 8 altered bat corona virus they were infecting humanized mice with in 2019 and they wont share them with anyone. Research in part funded by US tax dollars that no one other than China has access to.
     
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    The OP article says otherwise, as did the actual research paper from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The cells used at WIV were Vero cells, which are monkey kidney cells.
     
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    Precisely the opposite of what you have imagined.

    "The research done in Wuhan, including about the creation of novel viruses. “The viruses they constructed were tested for their ability to infect mice that were engineered to display human type receptors on their cell,” Ebright wrote"
     
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    He's talking about a different lab: the Wuhan University Center for Animal Experiment, as mentioned in the OP article.

    Edit: To be clear, the research he's talking about, with the hybridized mouse cells, was done at Wuhan University, not Wuhan Institute for Virology. This is the study that Rand Paul freaked out over:
    https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698#abstract0

    It doesn't mention hybridized or humanized mouse cells anywhere.
     
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    Both were using humanized mice. WIV contracted some of their work to other labs.
     
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    I still haven't seen a direct line from the grant in question to any experiments with humanized mice. I've only seen a couple of quotes from people and news stories that don't link to an actual paper trail. Do you have an actual paper trail?
     
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    You do understand these are the people that you are dealing with, right?

    FB_IMG_1630950991482.jpg

    These people worship at the alter of government, and Fauci is one of their saints.
     
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    Okay shill.
     
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    Because you dont want to see it.
     
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    Link a paper trail. I'll wait.
     
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    You are unable to perceive the vast piles of facts and evidence showing Fauci's guilt.

    That is a personal problem.
     
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    No, the problem is that the "evidence" includes gigantic assumptions and misconceptions.

    I agree that we need a more serious investigation of what went on in China - where and how the outbreak occurred.

    But, that's NOT what these folks generating these crap accusations are focused on. They are focused on targeting Dr. Fauci - about the most STUPID reaction that could POSSIBLY take place.

    Targeting Dr. Fauci makes ABSOLUTELY NO difference in ANYTHING we are doing today - something to which Dr. Fauci has made serious contributions which are continuously checked out by the FDA, the CDC, WHO, and other science organizations here and around the world. He has proved himself once again as a serious contributor to science based medicine.

    Let's recognize that these hit pieces are a total deflection from the analysis that we actually need.

    And, more than that, we need a strong, working Wuhan lab that is focused on SARS that is so prevalent among various animal species in that region.

    You need to do a far better job at identifying purely political screeds, along with some resistance to swallowing them whole!
     
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    The Intercept is the same website that reported-

    Rand Paul’s Attack on Fauci Chills Scientific Debate Over Gain-of-Function Research (theintercept.com)

    Paul’s made-for-television broadside against Fauci thrilled Fox News hosts and colleagues like Rep. Jim Jordan, the Ohio Republican who has also pushed the debunked conspiracy theory that research financed by Fauci’s agency, which some experts describe as gain-of-function, could have led to the development of SARS-CoV-2, the deadly coronavirus that causes the disease Covid-19, in the Wuhan lab.
     
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    China has quite a bit of research of Corona Viruses that they now keep secret, even though we in part funded the research. Soon after the Corona pandemic started, China removed all the data from the internet. Genetic sequences of modified Corona viruses created in the lab and all the related research.
     
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    Exactly.

    Those ARE the people we need to have a close relationship with, including helping them make progress. This is the second SARS exposure to invade America. There absolutely WILL be more, and I see us doing VERY little to prepare for that.

    In the case of working with that lab, our US decision piss on China, complete with enough insults to create violence against Asians even in America was EXACTLY what we should have done if we wanted to KILL what is best for America.

    Sometimes we just can't help but free our jingoism and stupidity.
     
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    Yeap I agree I mean it makes perfect f'ing sense that some bat that's never been found, **** on some pig that wasn't cooked well and eaten by some person and infected them with CV-19, a new covid virus that infects humans that has never been found in any other bat corona viruses and just so happens it happened in Wuhan, where coincidently the US has funded research where a lab changes Corona viruses to infect humans. How dumb can people be of course it came from that bat known as batman that has never been found. DUH.
     
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    They wont be sharing any of that progress with us. Other than to infect us with it.

    Titled, The Unnatural Origin of SARS and New Species of Man-Made Viruses as Genetic Bioweapons, the paper was written in 2015 by 18 Chinese military scientists and weapons experts. They stated that a family of viruses called coronaviruses could be “artificially manipulated into an emerging human disease virus, then weaponised and unleashed in a way never seen before.”
    A look at China’s biowarfare ambitions | ORF (orfonline.org)
     
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    Its American company founded by Americans.
     
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