New Evidence in George Floyd's Death?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    About time...

    I meant exactly what it says. They have kept their calls to non-violent protests despite the provocations and abuses by Trump and, in some instances, authorities. That's what I mean by "restraint". Not sure it will stay that way for the whole four years if Trump is re-elected and he escalates the violence on his end. Which he has already shown signs of doing. That's why getting rid of Trump is fundamental to keep the peace in this country. I have seen such escalation in other countries.
     
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    "Once"? I'm not going to waste my time doing research that YOU should have done.

    https://kutv.com/news/local/utah-bl...rs-condemn-violence-and-vandalism-at-protests
    https://www.13newsnow.com/article/n...duct/291-195de63c-e885-4fd1-ae18-d4b442f60113
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dallas-shooting-black-lives-matter-leaders-respond/
    ...

    Last time I do your research for you...
     
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    So now Trump is responsible for the riots and looting? And by authorities, do you mean the police? It appeared to me to be just the opposite. The looting and rioting took place because their was no interference by Trump or the police. I notice now that they have reduced the police presence, the number of killings and crime have gone up. The was predictable, at least by most of us.
     
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    That's a local chapter, not BLM National. Why hasn't the HEAD of BLM National condemned the violence? Or even these people: https://blacklivesmatter.com/our-co-founders/

    Answer THAT inconvenient question why don't you!

    “We would like to let the world know that we were in no way, shape, or form involved in any type of violence or misconduct that took place last night or any nights here in the 757,”

    “If it’s not coming directly from the @BLM757 page -- Black Lives Matter 757 page on Facebook, @blm757 Twitter and Instagram -- then it's not us. We would like to work with the community and give other individuals a voice we have to do it together,”


    That is simply the group saying that they're not responsible. That's hardly a condemnation. And again - a local chapter.

    This is from 2016. I'm saying that they haven't condemned the violence this year. Anything else for me to destroy?
     
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    You say, "they have kept their calls to non-violent protests..." Are you absolutely sure that you don't mean, they have MOSTLY kept their calls to non-violent protests? It's just that earlier you said that BLM have shown "quite a bit of restraint by keeping their protests MOSTLY non-violent?" Why MOSTLY?

    And if BLM DOES start to support violent protests? I don't suppose that you're radical enough to continue supporting them in that case. Are you?
     
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    No idea what you're talking about.
     
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    You said "once". I gave you more than one example. I don't even know what "BLM National" is
     
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    That's an idiotic hypothetical. Why would they support violent protests?
     
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    Sorry, did you not say, "not sure it will stay that way for the whole four years if Trump is re-elected?"
     
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    You say, "they have kept their calls to non-violent protests..." Are you absolutely sure that you don't mean, they have MOSTLY kept their calls to non-violent protests? It's just that earlier you said that BLM have shown "quite a bit of restraint by keeping their protests MOSTLY non-violent?" Why MOSTLY?
     
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    I was clearly not asking for an example from FOUR years ago! And as for you other example which was at least from this year, I say again (which you cut out from your reply) "That is simply the group saying that they're not responsible. That's hardly a condemnation."

    Oh, you've never heard of these people?: https://blacklivesmatter.com/our-co-founders/
     
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    Four years ago? You do know this is still 2020, right? I know every year Trump is in power feels like four years. What I do is every so often check the calendar to make sure I'm not living in some future apocalypse.
     
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    What I wrote is what I meant. I wouldn't know (or accept) any other way of saying it.
     
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    When nearly everyone of their peaceful protests turn violent, it makes more sense to blame BLM than blaming Trump for trying to stop the violence.

    They need to figure out someway to stop the protests from becoming violent or they need to stop the protests. Whatever they are doing or are claiming to be doing is not working.
     
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    There are systemic issues from well prior to Trump that led to this disaster. One could claim that Trump was a bit of a spark but I would say Covid was the main spark..
     
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    "One could claim" lots of things, but that does not make them true. It is a fact that most of those BLM "peaceful" demonstrations turn violent. They are not doing BLM any good. It is time for them to stop.
     
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    It's just that earlier you said that BLM have shown "quite a bit of restraint by keeping their protests MOSTLY non-violent?" Why MOSTLY?
     
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    Floyd's death was caused by fentanyl not police they will probably not be convicted because they're being charged with murder.

    If cause of death was asphyxiation then maybe.

    George Floyd wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back. He was simply catalyst. Everybody already knows better you know better as well. You're just towing the party line because orange man bad that's it.
     
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    Do you think that if Chauvin were Black, this story would have even made the news?
     
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    Yeah - murder in the second AND THIRD degree! Which seems insane! I thought that only one can be picked!

    Maybe what?
     
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    it wouldn't be either one of those at best you probably could get him on reckless endangerment.


    maybe you could get a conviction on murder.
     
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    Yet he's going to walk because he was overcharged. Really the problem in justices in the prosecution.
     
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    Know the gun wasn't shoved in his face. We saw the body cam video.

    He absolutely wasn't cooperative again we all saw the body cam video.

    You are wrong about this and you are doing damage to any effort to deal with police brutality.

    Lying about something when everybody can see it for themselves only makes you appear to be dishonest.
     

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