New Evidence in George Floyd's Death?

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  1. chris155au

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    Have you ever heard of someone being charged with both second AND third degree?

    But you're saying that the cop didn't kill him, right?
     
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    No I haven't.


    no I'm saying the cop didn't murder him.
     
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    The cop isn't a doctor. Perhaps he could be charged with failing to render aid, which is a crime most places. But if GF died because he was high on meth and that caused his death, then he killed himself. The police just didn't render the proper aid.

    You might could get him on some kind of police misconduct for excessive force. But not murder.
     
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    I called the 2nd degree murder charge.

    When it was still 3rd degree and before almost anyone else was I arguing otherwise, I debated 3 lawyers on the fact that it was 2nd degree murder. I won.

    That cop is going to prison for a very long time, considering his long record of misconduct. If some one in prison takes justice into their own hands, I will not shed a tear.
     
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    GF had a long criminal history, some of if violent, if I remember correctly. Too bad he wasn't properly incarcerated and rehabilitated. He might still be alive and a contributing member of society today.
     
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    George Floyd's actual arrest record per Snopes:

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    Mostly drug and theft charges. Last arrest was 12-13 years ago.

    This being established as the facts of the matter, it holds little relevance to his brutal murder at the hands of the cops
     
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    Brutal? He suffocated because he overdosed on meth? Or suffocated, while still being able to talk?

    Look, the cop should be held responsible. At a bare minimum, he ignored the complaints and failed to call an ambulance. But I think the record - especially the 2007 charge - you just posted clearly indicates that he had a problem existing in society - along with the fact that he WAS being arrested for passing counterfeit money (and high on illegal drugs).

    He isn't a role model worth rioting and burning down buildings over. For sure. No matter what color he was.
     
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    He wasn't murdered by the police. He died from cardiac arrest not asphyxiation. This is most likely complications of the drug cocktail he was on, and the stress of being arrested.

    He isn't Eric Garner.

    His previous arrest records I agree are no reason for him to be killed but he wasn't killed by police.
     
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    his heart stopped he didn't suffocate. That was because of probably a combination of the drugs he was on in the stress of being arrested.
    I don't think the riots have anything to do with George Floyd. They are all about the election.
     
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    The autopsy report for George Floyd indicated he had fractured ribs, consistent with CPR being performed. Meaning that aid was rendered at the scene, and again upon being transported to a medical facility.
     
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    The prosecutor did what so many crooked prosecutors do, he withheld exculpatory evidence against the defendants.
    This unnecessary attempt to railroad the defendants will make it far more difficult to obtain convictions.

    The video may still be enough for a jury, but when prosecutors impeach their own credibility juries take notice.
     
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    Ever since it came out that the cop and Floyd knew each other I've leaned toward a personal score that got out of hand rather than deliberate racist murder.
     
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    I have no idea what it is you're asking. "Mostly" means "for the most part" Is there any other possible meaning to the term?
     
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    Mostly means anything more than half.
     
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    Again how many times do I have to say it, YES Chauvin abused Floyd when he was on the ground, caused pain and suffering. He should be charged with that. Did he murder a man in the process of dying? I don't think so.
     
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    Why do you suppose the co-founders haven't condemned the violence? Is condemnation from the TOP too much to ask? I get the sense that they kind of like the violence.
     
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    Okay, so then when you say that BLM have shown "quite a bit of restraint by keeping their protests MOSTLY non-violent", what ELSE has been the case other than what has MOSTLY been the case? Obviously you're not saying that BLM has ALWAYS kept their protests non-violent. So what's been the alternative?
     
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    We can't say that the cops actions didn't EXACERBATE the effects of Floyd's intake of substances, can we?
     
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    Well you said that "Floyd's death was caused by fentanyl not police." By that do you mean he wasn't murdered by the cop?
     
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    Who says they haven't "condemned" the violence?
     
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    Research on both mine and your behalf! (Your behalf considering that those PATHETIC local chapter examples are all that you could find!) :roflol:
     
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    im really starting to back peddle on this whole issue tbh.
     
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    theres even rumours circulating that it was all staged and these guys all knew eachother lol.
     
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    Yes
     

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