New Executive Order allows Businesses to buy insurance across state lines.

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  1. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

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    Oh baloney. Do you seriously think this even address the basic premise of my point?

    What a joke.
     
  2. sawyer

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    Seems to me more like a fix than an attempt to destroy. Obamacare is imploding and since Congress won't scrap it all that's left is to fix it.
     
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    When Socialism fails the response is to ask for more Socialism, and the $20 trillion debt should just be ignored. The Koch brothers have plenty of money.

    Of course once the single payer bureaucracies are entrenched you'll never get rid of them, no matter what the cost or inefficiency. Think of the VA writ large.
     
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    Democrats don't like it. That is understandable. Republicans never liked Obamacare. I don't feel it is vindictive at all. There are 10.2 million of Obamacare. Of these, 9 million are receiving subsidies because the Affordable Care Act was a boondoggle to begin with. It is fair for all tax paying Americans. If the people getting Obamacare really can't afford insurance they can apply for Medicaid.
     
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    And then our entire health care system would be what the VA was
     
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    No and they are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    There is such a thing as a win win scenario where consumers get more choice and insurance companies sell more policies.
     
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    It addressed it to the "T". Also the first letter in "Truth hurts".
     
  9. sawyer

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    I'll bite. What is your list of good things worth keeping with Obama's name on it?
     
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    If Trump is such a dunce how did he become so wealthy and beat the DNC candidate that was unbeatable and had the entire DNC media backing her?
     
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    what does suicide have to do with adopting the proven superior method of health care?

    yes, those countries aren't plagued by moronic right wing extremists.
     
  13. rahl

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    trump isn't a billionaire. where did I ask for the reigns? I simply pointed out that single payer is demonstrably superior to our system and that it would make sense to adopt it.
     
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    socialism hasn't failed though. And republicans couldn't care less about the debt, or the deficit.

    This is why right wingers should be excluded from governing. You guys don't even know the difference between single payer, and government run healthcare. the VA is not a single payer system.
     
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    $600/yr is probably only good for 1 visit and limited blood work, that is all. blood work is at least $250, then the doctor, $150, etc.

    i dont have a problem with that, but only very few people need that limited coverage.
     
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    because he was just smart enough to convince dumber people to vote for him
     
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    Ahh yes, the "basket of deplorables". The comment by Hillary that cemented her loss.
     
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    If you follow the link, $50/mo covers unlimited visits for routine care, and even housecalls. This is not a hypothetical plan.. it's a working practice.
     
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    Yes. Because not holding Donnie ***** Grabbing Trump accountable is par for the course.
     
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    ok, i wonder what doctors are in that plan. as i said, it seems a very low number, and blood work is not cheap.
     
  21. sawyer

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    Yes indeed Trump should have been put to death for a braggadocios comment but Hillary should not be held accountable for private emails, Benghazi and destruction of evidence. Not to mention destroying any woman's life who ever spoke out on her husband's infidelity and rape.
     
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    Socialism hasn't failed??History is riddled with failed Socialist countries and we can watch them fail regularly.

    Are you aware of the problems in the VA and the government bureaucrats who ran it?
     
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    and it's also riddled with socialist countries that are thriving.

    are you aware that the VA isn't single payer?
     
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    yeah I quoted Margot on this not you.
     
  25. Fred C Dobbs

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    Which ones are they?
    No, i thought the government was involved somehow. Do you have other information?
     

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