New Harvard Research Says US Christianity Not Shrinking but Growing Stronger

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Paul7, Mar 12, 2019.

  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Messages:
    4,527
    Likes Received:
    1,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
  2. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Since you weren't there, you have no way of knowing the miracle claims were lies. I prefer to go by the testimony of those who were there.
     
  3. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2017
    Messages:
    16,319
    Likes Received:
    10,027
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I saw a whore come to church when I was twenty-five. The next week she was wearing a dress and reading the Bible and she stuck at least until I moved out of the area about 3 years later -- real, real bad thing.
     
  4. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Many witnesses are certainly not what Daniel Light writes that they all are, people with addictions.

    That is like saying all atheists are addicted to proving no deity exists.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
  5. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, you made the claim, it's up to you.
     
  6. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There are millions of such positive transformation stories through faith in Christ.
     
  7. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you admit that you weren't their either, yet choose to believe in oral myth in an attempt to explain something that the locals did not the reason for. Sounds stupid to me.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
  8. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I reject your premise that is a myth, you have no way of knowing that.
     
  9. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, you are the one rejecting it without providing any facts or truth. It is on you to finally provide backup for your claims, as false as they are.
    And there are millions of tales showing the depravity of this god <Rule 3>
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 18, 2019
    FoxHastings likes this.
  10. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And you have no way of knowing that it happened as your mythical tales describe. Except my view contains some logic, yours lacks that quality.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2019
    FoxHastings likes this.
  11. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We disagree.
     
  12. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We're all called to decide who we think Jesus Christ was, you've made your choice, see how that works out for you.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 18, 2019
  13. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fact: standards of proof are different for science and for faith belief.
     
  14. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Mainly because you know that I am correct.
     
  15. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Called by whom? This mythical god of yours, or those who are telling you what to think in lew of your lack of ability to do so yourself?
     
  16. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Arjay51: you have your opinion, and sad is what it is in this case. That's my opinion. :)
     
  17. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We all have opinions. Yours is wrong and mine is correct.

    That's my opinion.
     
  18. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Messages:
    4,527
    Likes Received:
    1,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did your ego overrule your reason....is that a male thing?
     
  19. Blaster3

    Blaster3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2018
    Messages:
    6,008
    Likes Received:
    5,302
    Trophy Points:
    113
    if christians were 'true' christians, they'd all kill themselves... alas, they're false in their own prophecy...
     
  20. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did your emotion overrule your reason . . . is that a female thing?

    I agree with the OP.
     
  21. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not a very Christian thing to ask or say thus making it a female thing.
     
    JakeStarkey likes this.
  22. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2011
    Messages:
    10,833
    Likes Received:
    4,092
    Trophy Points:
    113
  23. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2016
    Messages:
    25,747
    Likes Received:
    9,526
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Distraff, the human being has need of spiritual connections, so I think the rise will even off eventually long before 50%. And, in twenty to thirty years, we will see the young Genxrs and the Millennials turn to the spiritual for meaning.
     
  24. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2018
    Messages:
    4,527
    Likes Received:
    1,474
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I asked Mr. Starkey why I was wrong and he is yet to answer...I suspected knee jerk nay saying without thought behind it was the reason and I've not been corrected.
     
  25. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Messages:
    4,216
    Likes Received:
    724
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Or that the evidence is so self evident that you would reject it for being counter to what you have chosen to believe, so a correction would be a waste of time.
     
    JakeStarkey likes this.

Share This Page