New Harvard Research Says US Christianity Not Shrinking but Growing Stronger

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    You have been shown why you are wrong. You don't get to re-litigate it Edna with me.
     
  2. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    The evidence is totally lacking for the OP's statement that US Christianity is not shrinking and getting stronger per the study. The OP's stated that those falling away were not "real" Christians..The "real" Christians are not growing in number but they are growing in their dogmatism.
    I am fully capable of being corrected with evidence...that no one has provided.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is your process to attempt to prove what you told us?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One advantage of church has always been IMO, that socializing happens in church. Neighbors visit neighbors and take time to do so in a particular setting that the Democrats and cynics simply never can match.

    Today we use the internet. Who recalls when you did not wake up wanting to look at that device to see if you got mail?

    I spend time daily eliminating almost all of the mail that comes to me. It is rinse and repeat mostly. Things said to me previously, only regurgitated.

    But church has a pleasant end result. People walk away happy. Walk off believing life has a greater sum than what they experience all day long. Not told how lousy they are at church is a benefit.
     
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    you just described being coddled, which is what church is... coddle the congregation
     
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    Yet you consider any "evidence" provided that supports your claim to be 100% true and accurate, in spite of evidence to the contrary. Sounds like wishful thinking on your part and a refusal to consider anything that you don't like, that you aren't capable of being corrected.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Very good. But compare that to say a Democrat party meeting. There is a ration of pure hate. One leaves their meetings truly hating other people.
     
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    coddling & indoctrination are both bad for people and society as a whole ;)

    edit: both breed psychopaths
     
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    All any Christian need do is go to church to realize that the church is failing. Attendance is way down. Parishes/ congregations across the nation are closing down.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probably it is the Catholics suffering. Perhaps due to the claims that their priests are homosexuals who prey on boys.
     
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    I am still waiting for the evidence to the contrary.
     
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    I saw the massive million woman march upon the taking of office by Trump as a splendid example of what you are speaking of.

    Due to Lincoln only getting 38 percent of the vote, one can imagine all the huge marches against him as well. It seems to me the public was raising a lot of hell that the historians make next to no mention of.
     
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    And with your mind set you will be waiting even after it is presented. Intentional myopic.
     
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    in the 'grand scheme' , the '16 elections were a virtual tie ... the ec actually got this one right...
     
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    That's what I thought.......you got nothin'
     
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    Since religiosity is being watered down, it only makes sense.
     
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    Atheism is the faith of cognitive dissonants.
     
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    Always interesting when the article cannot actually link or quote the Harvard Study. Typical usage by a biased source that pretends to use a respected institution but mostly just babbles without data.

    And actually there was no Harvard Study. One of the authors of the study was from Harvard but nothing in the artice was endorsed or publushed by Harvard.

    More to put it simply phony BS.
     
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    No, that would be you with all of the fantasy you support.

    There have been several facts presented that you have consistently ignored due to the fact that they did not fit your scenario.

    Classic to never admit you have any chance of being wrong, especially when you know that you are wrong.

    BTW, what have you got as facts, not theories that give you a warm fuzzy.
     
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    interesting... believing in an unknown & unproven entity is acceptable, yet choosing to not beleive in an unknown is dissonance?

    me thinks that someone that beleives in religion while being pro choice, would be a much better example of 'cognative dissonance' ;)
     
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    Cognitive dissonance. I like that. Never knew quite how to phrase my stance on religion and abortion.
     
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    You had your chance and now it just getting embarrassing.
     
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    So you want to quibble with the title, I guess because you can't argue against the findings. Harvard doesn't have official positions, but their faculty who do research do. Feel better now?

    https://www.sociologicalscience.com/download/vol-4/november/SocSci_v4_686to700.pdf
     
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